gtb2260 on standard map?

Mar 25, 2009
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hi guys

have decided to go for the gtb2260 route for my ibiza tdi 130.

darkside want £300 + Vat for fitting alone, which i think is crazy money.

does anyone know if it can be ran on the standard map? well i have stage 1 map on at the moment. im not talking about power but in terms of 'it will run and drive fine if your drive normally' so i can get it fitted elsewhere and then get them to map it

any advice?

zach
 
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Well dark side are a good 4 hours from me, sounds like I'm better off just paying the extra then I guess :(
 

Leon2012

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Performance/specialist garages always ask more, although Ryan/Darkside has quoted me reasonable rates before.

You should be able to get it fitted for around £250 inc. VAT by a good local VAG specialist, but of course you need to make sure you know that they're competent with the job, so that's where going to Ryan/Darkside takes away the doubt.

In terms of driving it without it being tuned/mapped for the 2260, if you had to drive it, you should baby it, and only to a garage to get it sorted.

For the best map/tune, go to: Malone Tuning, TD Tuning, Rocketchip, drivbiwire....all in North America - they can map your car remotely and tweak it with logs, better than all the UK tuners/mappers can.
 

vroomtshh

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For the best map/tune, go to: Malone Tuning, TD Tuning, Rocketchip, drivbiwire....all in North America - they can map your car remotely and tweak it with logs, better than all the UK tuners/mappers can.

Really? Driven many cars that are mapped by them? I'm pretty sure Ryan, and my mapper would take offence to that statement
 

Leon2012

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Being an active member on TDIclub.com and knowing a lot about tuning diesels, I'm sure Ryan would agree with me that the North American mappers/tuners are better than the UK...

And if your mapper has any sense, he would too!
 

Leon2012

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Who, Ryan or your guy, because Ryan knows the North Americans have it in the bag regarding diesel tuning/mapping. If your guy doesn't, he's got a lot of catching up to do!
 
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vroomtshh

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Who, Ryan or your guy, because Ryan knows the North Americans have it in the bag regarding diesel tuning/mapping. If your guy doesn't, he's got a lot of catching up to do!

Neither of the two of them would. Care to enlighten everyone as to how the north americans are doing it better?
 

Leon2012

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Neither of the two of them would. Care to enlighten everyone as to how the north americans are doing it better?

Well you don't know Ryan then...and your guy sounds like a standard UK tuner, care to name them? Are they known on the international TDI tuning/mapping scene?


The difference is that the North American diesel tuning market is far more specialist and niche than in the UK. As a result, the people involved are usually real enthusiasts and specialists. Therefore, they have taken tuning to a much deeper level and the top 3 TDI tuners in the world: Mark Malone, TDTuning and Rocketchip, are like professors who know the ECUs in great detail, so they can fine tune a map to be as perfect as can be.

Perfect as in the ultimate in smoothness and power delivery, along with no smoke to boot! It sounds amazing, but that's their daily mission, and they don't stop until they've achieved it!

You use a flashing device in your OBD port, and make logs with VCDS to send them and they continue tweaking it until you're 110% satisfied.

The cost is much less than a "custom map" in the UK, and if you want a further remap in the future if you change set-up again, the North Americans will do it for less than $100 I believe.
 
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Leon2012

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This is an independent review compared of Malone Tuning Vs. REVO stage 2 (from VW Vortex) -

Tuning
Due to potential accessibility issues with my existing ECU, we started tuning from a stock ECU. Tuning requires VCDS and it is an extremely simple process with the FlashZilla units. I data logged my stock ECU and downloaded the ECU's program onto a FlashZilla unit using the helpful guides provided by Malone Tuning. I sent these files to Malone Tuning via email and within a few days, Mark had a preliminary base tune ready for me. I loaded the tune onto FlashZilla and then flashed my GTI using the FlashZilla. The entire process was very simple and it took less than 15 minutes.

The base tune was already an improvement over Revo Stage 2, but Mark insisted I data log the preliminary tune and send him the results for further tweaking. After two revised tunes, Mark was completely satisfied with how my GTI was performing and I couldn't believe the difference he made.

Results
Power delivery under the finalized tune was significantly smoother than Revo Stage 2, and the linear boost behaviour made my GTI much more enjoyable to drive. Needless to say, my GTI felt much better (and faster) than it ever did before. The best part is that my GTI was consistently pulling no timing whatsoever!

Each time I drive my GTI, I am still amazed that Mark was able to achieve this result. Not only is my GTI performing significantly faster, but it is doing so with much more consistency and safety
. Ultimately, Mark's custom tune improved the performance of my GTI while also eliminating all serious risks of detonation.

Recommendation
Custom tune or not, I highly suggest going with a Malone Tuning over any other competitors. Not only is Mark extremely skilled in what he does, but he's also an amazing person to work with. Customer service is excellent as Mark is prompt in responding to any inquiries, and he truly cares about each of his customers and helping them achieve what is best for them.

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5201120-FlashZilla-Loader-and-ECU-Tunes
 
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Leon2012

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From the main man himself:

Mark Malone said:
What I can tell you is that we squeeze out the max. safe power from the car, preferably with logs. We emphasize on smooth running and reliability. Virtually all of our clients who have switched from competing tunes stated that our tunes feel smoother and perhaps stronger.

(from same thread as above)
 

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Since when did Revo offer maps for GTB equipped diesels?

And I've yet to see any evidence that North americans map any better than UK mappers.

More internet heresay - still no real life experience. I see a common theme with your postings
 

Leon2012

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Since when did Revo offer maps for GTB equipped diesels?

And I've yet to see any evidence that North americans map any better than UK mappers.

More internet heresay - still no real life experience. I see a common theme with your postings

Well you can lead a horse (or an ostrich in this case) to water....