Revo Stage 2 K03s Logs

Chap, log 114.

Example of a well setup car showing 114....

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and one that was been wound on too far... :headhurt:

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With 114, all lines should really follow closely.
 

Revo Kev

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I'll pop something here quickly...

Basically log block 114 as you would any other (under load through the rpm, we tend to do this as it loads the car up more than normal or even aggressive driving so helps see the maximum values)
Block 114 shows you specified load, corrected specified load, actual load and wastegate duty cycle.
You would expect to see (when you're on the throttle) the first three values being almost the same. If corrected specified is more/less than specified or actual then the ECU is having to alter requested values based on readings from one or more engine sensors. It would do this for a couple of reasons... incorrect tuning/settings (depending on whether you're running adjustable software or not) or a fault somewhere.
If for example you had a boost leak the corrected could well be more than the specified but the actual will be much less... so the ECU is seeing that requested values aren't being made and is trying to ask for more to compensate. It would only be like this until the ECU hits a limit or goes into limp i.e. it realises there's a problem. Wastegate duty cycle isn't always going to ask for the maximum values as the majority of VAG turbos can't hold much boost as they get higher up the rev range so duty cycle and requests drop off rather than attempt to ask too much of it. Again though this depends on how the car's been tuned.
In regards to loading on a dyno, with too much load (in comparison to average road conditions) the ECU will see that the car is 'struggling' so will over compensate and request more thus the car gets hotter quicker tends to peak early and heatsoak; results normally see lower than expected BHP but high torque levels.
Hope this helps a little!
 
Nov 2, 2004
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Wow, thanks for taking the time to explain all that kev, really appreciate it. Nice to find out the exact meanings of the logs, as all i tend to look for on 114 is that the lines are pretty close to each other. lol

Is my corrected lower than specifified due to the large boost spike 22.xx vs 17.xx requested and low wg duty?
 
TBCupra, the bottom example shows what happens when settings etc were wound too far past the ability of the car and it's tuning parts....or lack of. For example....running Boost 9 on a car with a standard side mount intercooler etc
 

ChrisCurzon

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yea some really good info here think we all need to do some logs on 114 and see if we have got it all setup correctly, i know when mines running proper ill be looking at logs abit more
 

__B3NNY__

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May 5, 2005
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Any news phil to weather there is a update to your map? I heard from the garage today and i should have her back either tommrow or saturday meaning i should be able to get some decent logs up sunday night latest. Kev, What differances would we expect to see with the updated map?
 

__B3NNY__

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May 5, 2005
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finally Updated Revo stg2 115 logs

After finally getting my car back saturday i managed to get out tonight and get some logging done, So heres block 115 from the upadted stg2 map, To me it looks like requsts less that the previous map?

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Group A:	'115				Group B:
	RPM	Load	Absolute Pres.	Absolute Pres.	
TIME					TIME
STAMP	 /min	%	 mbar	 mbar	STAMP
0	3200	191.7	1890	2490	0.37
0.78	3320	90.2	2100	1190	1.28
1.78	3520	184.2	2180	2420	2.18
2.58	3760	187.2	2180	2410	2.98
3.38	3960	187.2	2180	2380	3.79
4.18	4200	185	2140	2340	4.58
5.09	4440	181.2	2110	2290	5.49
5.98	4600	172.9	2100	2170	6.48
6.88	4840	167.7	2070	2080	7.28
7.68	4960	164.7	2060	2050	8.08
8.48	5080	162.4	2050	2030	8.88
9.28	5240	160.2	2030	2010	9.68
10.08	5360	157.1	2030	1980	10.48
10.88	5520	153.4	2020	1980	11.37
11.77	5600	151.9	2000	1970	12.29
12.69	5760	149.6	1990	1940	13.09
13.47	5840	148.9	1980	1930	13.87
14.27	5920	146.6	1960	1920	14.69
15.07	6040	146.6	1980	1910	15.47
18.27	6360	139.8	1920	1860	18.78
19.18	6720	24.1	960	1700	19.58
20.06	5040	6	960	1070	20.48
 
Nov 2, 2004
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What settings is that on?

2180mbar isnt much considering i hold 2550 for a couple of time stamps. No wonder my car was throwing a fit on the rollers. MBC/bleed valve me up.
 

__B3NNY__

OEM with a 'Twist'
May 5, 2005
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Thats on my previous settings i assume, Which was HB9 T9 with 6.75 deg added with lemmiwinks, could it be possible that when the new map was uploaded the old settings wasnt transferd and im actully running lowe settings than before?
 

__B3NNY__

OEM with a 'Twist'
May 5, 2005
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What settings is that on?

2180mbar isnt much considering i hold 2550 for a couple of time stamps. No wonder my car was throwing a fit on the rollers. MBC/bleed valve me up.

what do you actully mean by that phil?

Is it worth me making a trip back to my revo dealer to check the settings? as the requsted boost is lower than before. So im assuming that its running a lower setting of boost? Or could it be possible that the updated map is written to requst less boost? Even though that would defeat the object of a update wouldnt it?


David.
 
Nov 2, 2004
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Strange daz, wonder what it was, nevermind i'm running at Powerstation on saturday so i'll see what happens then.

Heres a graph of actual vs. requested....

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lol. I been practicing with excel coz i'm rubbish at it.

Heres an old log from the summer, the 2550 holds for a little longer now.

I'll be out this week some time logging when i change my plugs.
 
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