am i going to get smoked
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It all depends how much you wonna beat him and how much spare wonga you got... Spend an evening or two stripping the car out a bit and a few mods and you have a much better chance.
You're representing SEAT here, so you best not getting beat by a ford!
You're representing SEAT here, so you best not getting beat by a ford!
Well according to this it may be more down to the driver than we think (and the lsd of the focus
).http://www.letstorquebhp.com/calculator.asp
Figures I used:-
Cupra = 204bhp 1119kg(taken from parkers)
RS = 240bhp 1278kg(taken from an evo mag as not listed on parkers)
I only used this to calculate the bhp per ton as I was too lazy to do it myself
.It’s up to you how seriously you take the other figures! I know there are many other things to take into account, torque, driver weight, condition of tyres……. The list goes on, but I think the power to weight shows there won’t be much in it! 
m8 has a rs with bigger turbo not to sure on make but runin 300+ bhp wheels still spin in 4th gear. u will be admiring his back end all the way home lol
I do not know like. I think you have just as good a chance as him.
One of ma mates has a RS and i think it's quite slow. I'v not raced him in ma Ibiza yet. But ma mate has in him MR2 and he beat him. It's only a 2L non turbo MR2.
Think it will be down to how you get off the line and gear changes bud.
One of ma mates has a RS and i think it's quite slow. I'v not raced him in ma Ibiza yet. But ma mate has in him MR2 and he beat him. It's only a 2L non turbo MR2.
Think it will be down to how you get off the line and gear changes bud.
I have owned a Focus RS which I modified extensively to 300bhp. It was a bit of an animal once modified but it was fairly slow as standard and that's why a lot of them are modded.
In the bends the RS was great, but in a straight line, it wasn't that good. That's why I modded it as it just didn't feel as quick as some of my previous cars (LCR and S3). It is over-rated in my opinion and a lot of the lads who have them modify them and then brag on the forums, saying every other car is "slow," forgetting that their car is modified and the standard ST, GTI or VXR they have just beaten is in standard form.
I was a member of the RSownersclub and most of the lads were getting 14-15 second 1/4 mile times. when we went to Santa Pod. The Focus isn't a 1/4 mile car and they most boys with them do admit that. I recall when I was a member that they were all trying to organise a 30-130 day instead. The FRS is good mid-range and good in the twisties but not amazing up the strip and I think you could surprise him in your Cupra.
I think it should be a close call if he has 240bhp and you 40 or so bhp less. I think you could do him, mate but I am not certain... Give it a go and good luck!!! At the end of the day, both cars are FWD and so both should struggle off the mark so I think it will all depend on how you get off the line. get your tyres hot and sticky and get some practice first!!!
As well as an RS6, I now have a KO4 Ibiza Cupra which is somewhere in the region of 250bhp and that is as quick as my FRS was, maybe slightly quicker even and this is with 50 or so bhp less than my FRS had. It's all relative and all down to weight. Although I am unsure of the stats, I would guess the Cupra is a bit lighter than a FRS.
On a side note, my Cupra happily glued itself to the back of a Wolf Focus ST (330bhp) last week up to silly speeds (private road of course) and so bhp isn't everything. I wish I was in my RS6, that would have been funny!!!!
In the bends the RS was great, but in a straight line, it wasn't that good. That's why I modded it as it just didn't feel as quick as some of my previous cars (LCR and S3). It is over-rated in my opinion and a lot of the lads who have them modify them and then brag on the forums, saying every other car is "slow," forgetting that their car is modified and the standard ST, GTI or VXR they have just beaten is in standard form.
I was a member of the RSownersclub and most of the lads were getting 14-15 second 1/4 mile times. when we went to Santa Pod. The Focus isn't a 1/4 mile car and they most boys with them do admit that. I recall when I was a member that they were all trying to organise a 30-130 day instead. The FRS is good mid-range and good in the twisties but not amazing up the strip and I think you could surprise him in your Cupra.
I think it should be a close call if he has 240bhp and you 40 or so bhp less. I think you could do him, mate but I am not certain... Give it a go and good luck!!! At the end of the day, both cars are FWD and so both should struggle off the mark so I think it will all depend on how you get off the line. get your tyres hot and sticky and get some practice first!!!
As well as an RS6, I now have a KO4 Ibiza Cupra which is somewhere in the region of 250bhp and that is as quick as my FRS was, maybe slightly quicker even and this is with 50 or so bhp less than my FRS had. It's all relative and all down to weight. Although I am unsure of the stats, I would guess the Cupra is a bit lighter than a FRS.
On a side note, my Cupra happily glued itself to the back of a Wolf Focus ST (330bhp) last week up to silly speeds (private road of course) and so bhp isn't everything. I wish I was in my RS6, that would have been funny!!!!
i came up against a astra vxr last nite at the lights, didnt wanna try as im only runnin approx 175bhp he started edging forward and i floored it and we were level until i hit second then pulled away from it, with 65bhp difference this proves that it must be down to the driver not neccessarily the car
Just to go on a tangent, My mate had a RS before stuffing it. Anyhow the Wolf focus tuners claim 330bhp, but all the RS boys are a bit dubious, as no-one has actually RR'd their car to prove these figures, allegedly!
The STOC have been on RR days and actual results vary as with any "claimed" performance outputs. The ST has a lot of torque and some as standard seem to have more bhp than the factory stated 225; it depends from car to car. Some 330's do have 330 and others don't. The one I raced was "THE" Wolf as I know the owner (Gary) from when I used to take my RS to him.
All down to the driver imho. The extra bhp he has is cancelled out by the weight difference. Get off the line quickly and smoothly, clean gear changes and the win will be yours!!
just the usual m8
bluefin
ceramic coated tubular maniflod
full custom made exhaust
forge actuator
k&n air filter (with the water proof sock lol)
forge twin piston dump valve
not that much really but i do miss it m8 the handeling was great.
am missing it evan more after my coilpack went last night on the cupra 80 miles from home that was a long drive. got a m8 who works for vw so only £15ish to me so not too bad just a pain. lol what did you have done to yours pal
I don't miss mine at all mate, worst 10 months of motoring I have had. I had countless troubles with mine.
When it was all going good, great. The car looked well and went well etc. but it came at a price. It was standard when I bought it but too slow (coming from a 280bhp Jabba'd LCR) so I set about modding it.
I just had countless problems with the car and it was off the road more than it was on the road. Shame really as I took good care of it; it was my baby.
In the end I just paid to get it fixed and got shut, bought the Audi RS6 and the Audi S3 (which has now gone for a 250bhp K04 Ibiza Cupra).
My mods on the FRS were:
Bluefin
Primary Designs Ceramic Coated Manifold
Full Milltek and Sports Cat
Front Pro-Alloy Intercooler
Bailey DV30
Samco Hoses
K&N Gen II Induction Kit
Collins Bleed Valve
Powerflex Bushes
Immediately bought EBC drilled discs and Red Stuff pads all-round
Also did some small visual modifications such as the small RS grille badge, a bay of engine bling from Autospecialists and the wheels re-done in black.
There's probably a lot more that I missed to be honest:
Here are pics of it:
When it was all going good, great. The car looked well and went well etc. but it came at a price. It was standard when I bought it but too slow (coming from a 280bhp Jabba'd LCR) so I set about modding it.
I just had countless problems with the car and it was off the road more than it was on the road. Shame really as I took good care of it; it was my baby.
In the end I just paid to get it fixed and got shut, bought the Audi RS6 and the Audi S3 (which has now gone for a 250bhp K04 Ibiza Cupra).
My mods on the FRS were:
Bluefin
Primary Designs Ceramic Coated Manifold
Full Milltek and Sports Cat
Front Pro-Alloy Intercooler
Bailey DV30
Samco Hoses
K&N Gen II Induction Kit
Collins Bleed Valve
Powerflex Bushes
Immediately bought EBC drilled discs and Red Stuff pads all-round
Also did some small visual modifications such as the small RS grille badge, a bay of engine bling from Autospecialists and the wheels re-done in black.
There's probably a lot more that I missed to be honest:
Here are pics of it:
am missing it evan more after my coilpack went last night on the cupra 80 miles from home that was a long drive. got a m8 who works for vw so only £15ish to me so not too bad just a pain. lol what did you have done to yours pal
if ur coilpack went u really dont want to drive it!! as unburnt fuel will end up igniting in the manifold/turbo/dp and cat
the cat will begin to break up and will get blocked and will reduce performance massively!!!
this was the what had happened to my ibiza when i bought it and it wouldnt boost to more than 4psi even with the actuator by passed!!
if a coil pack of mine goes now i wouldnt drive 10 miles!! (i keep a spare in the boot)
if i hadnt drove it home i would have had to sleep there lol it was 2 in the morning am looking at a s/cat any way m8. do the ibiza go well over the emmisions limit with a de cat.
loving the audi m8 i was thinking bout the rs4. with the focus rs some ppl seem to get good ones that dont get a lot of trouble and some get ones that are just constantly being fixed.
my old ibiza was running 250ish bhp had no trouble at all my new one which have spent thousands getting it how i want it and so it will handel reight one thing after another thinking of selling it tbh.
loving the audi m8 i was thinking bout the rs4. with the focus rs some ppl seem to get good ones that dont get a lot of trouble and some get ones that are just constantly being fixed.
my old ibiza was running 250ish bhp had no trouble at all my new one which have spent thousands getting it how i want it and so it will handel reight one thing after another thinking of selling it tbh.
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