New SEAT Arosa is Up!

Boo

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Looks a bit cramped inside and they still havent sorted out the lack of boot space. Don't like it - reminds me a bit of the volvo C30.
 

foto2021

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Looks a bit cramped inside and they still havent sorted out the lack of boot space. Don't like it - reminds me a bit of the volvo C30.


Volvo C30 is about right. Ugly car.

It makes me wonder:

1) What was so wrong with the original Lupo/Arosa? The Up! doesn't look so different, especially as the rear engined layour of the concept car has been ditched in favour of a conventional front engine/front wheel drive..

2) If the original Lupo/Arosa was discontinued due to poor sales, why does VAG think that the new Up! will do any better?
 

foto2021

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Awful...all of them :(


If they announced the 1997 Arosa Mark 1 (unchanged) as their newest, latest creation for 2012, I think most people would prefer it to these truly hideous designs.

It is so often the case that new models are worse than the ones they replace. Never more true than here!
 
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If they announced the 1997 Arosa Mark 1 (unchanged) as their newest, latest creation for 2012, I think most people would prefer it to these truly hideous designs.

It is so often the case that new models are worse than the ones they replace. Never more true than here!

I agree wholly. I don't understand why manufacturers are now making cars which look stupid compared to what they made about 15 years ago. Complete styling fail.

Like the new Toledo for instance. Whilst I hate to slag off a SEAT, it looks the same as an Altea, except it has a bulging rear end, much like the front end of a Fiat Multipla but on the back. Eugh.
 

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I agree wholly. I don't understand why manufacturers are now making cars which look stupid compared to what they made about 15 years ago. Complete styling fail.

Like the new Toledo for instance. Whilst I hate to slag off a SEAT, it looks the same as an Altea, except it has a bulging rear end, much like the front end of a Fiat Multipla but on the back. Eugh.



I agree. The last Toledo was an abomination. I think it has now been replaced in the range by the Altea XL which looks much better:
http://www.seat.co.uk/content/uk/brand/en/models/altea-xl/discover.html

I owned two of the original Toledos, a 1.8GLi and a 1.6SE with 100 bhp. They were based on the VW Golf Mark 2/Vento with a cavernous boot and a huge hatchback. Lovely cars, but largely now replaced in the VW range by the Skoda Octavia.

It was because I had been so happy with my Toledos that I bought the Arosa. [B)]
 

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That car is horrid. Forget the styling being all wrong its non existent on the vw up, like some sh**ty Daihatsu or the early models of crappy South Korean manufacturers. That shiny red interior dash is gash as well. The Arosa is marginally better with its scowling face rather than the smiley sh*t smeared grin the up has and Skoda...well to me it looks like most Skodas...just alright. I like the original lupo/Arosa a lot as a fun looking little car, even though I would never own one, too small for me, so these reincarnations are a disappointment
 

Boo

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Lets combine the Arosa's original crap boot with the new Ibiza which, has been selling well. I know lets just cut the rear end off the Ibiza and we'll have a small boot and a new car !
 

Boo

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Although to be fair Seat are a bit late with this as most other car companies already have developed their own small hatchback cars. I do maintain that they have missed out on a huge market but, being too late I don't see it taking off.
 

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Although to be fair Seat are a bit late with this as most other car companies already have developed their own small hatchback cars. I do maintain that they have missed out on a huge market but, being too late I don't see it taking off.


Perhaps it was a mistake to stop making the original Arosa in 2004? I cannot see the Up! or its Skoda/SEAT variants being any cheaper to make.
 

Boo

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Absolutely a mistake to stop making it. Most people I know are downsizing their cars to cope with tax increases and insurance hikes. Taste of things to come I guess too.
 

lunalupi

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If they announced the 1997 Arosa Mark 1 (unchanged) as their newest, latest creation for 2012, I think most people would prefer it to these truly hideous designs.

People don't believe me when I tell them mine is 13 years old (it's an early '98) - it's a very ageless design and much nicer than the new Up!
 

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People don't believe me when I tell them mine is 13 years old (it's an early '98) - it's a very ageless design and much nicer than the new Up!


You're right. The Arosa/Lupo design had a classic look. Mine's even older than yours - its a 1997 and was one of the few Arosas that were made at the Volkswagen factory in Wolfsburg, Germany.
 

foto2021

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So was mine! I had a holiday on the continent a few years ago and took him back to his birthplace :D


That's nice! I've been to Germany several times, but never to Wolfsburg. I would like to, because the VW museum is there and I've heard it's very good.

So your Arosa is a he? Mine's definitely a she, and is called Rosa. Not very imaginative, I know, but she's red so Rosa fits. :)
 
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