BAM 225BHP Engine in mk4?

[samussamus1]

Hello Guys,

Looking at getting a BAM engine 225bhp in my mk4 1.9tdi 130 6 speed.
I've been hunting to see whats involved.
I will need the engine and gearbox ect and mounts.....custom downpipe ect (this is the easy stuff)

What about the ecu? which ecu will i need for it to work? a 1.8 180bhp ibiza ecu or a leon cupra r 225 ecu?

also what about the harness for all the electronics?

Cheers guys, I've looked everywhere =/

Sam

 

[phey708]

You will need an ECU from BAM engine because the loom may be different along with timings and fuel mapping etc.., and don't forget to get the ECU, key and Dials from the same vehicle as well otherwise you will have immobilizer issues.

The dials from an Audio a3 or a4 i think fit in the Ibiza but you have to be a bit creative when fitting the dials to the dials facia.

P.S. Don't forget to chance fuel lines and fuel filter too as they will have traces of diesel that could damage your engine.

 

[samussamus1]

You will need an ECU from BAM engine because the loom may be different along with timings and fuel mapping etc.., and don't forget to get the ECU, key and Dials from the same vehicle as well otherwise you will have immobilizer issues.

The dials from an Audio a3 or a4 i think fit in the Ibiza but you have to be a bit creative when fitting the dials to the dials facia.

P.S. Don't forget to chance fuel lines and fuel filter too as they will have traces of diesel that could damage your engine.

Brilliant thanks, what about the throttle as mine is electronic and all the headlights ect, should all this work?
Would I need the loom from a BAM car?

Cheers

Sam

 

[cupra.al]

cant you just buy a cupra 20vt and get it remapped? would be alot easier plus your car would sell for more being a diesel so you could afford the cupra and have money left over for a remap etc.

 

[Seal_LCR]

Personally I would either buy a Ibiza 1.8t or a cupra or an LCR

 

[phey708]

Brilliant thanks, what about the throttle as mine is electronic and all the headlights ect, should all this work?
Would I need the loom from a BAM car?

Cheers

Sam

The BAM engine is also flyby-wire as well. All car electronics is mainly done by the Comfort Control ECU under the drivers dash area.

If you fit this engine, then let me know how it goes.

 

[yellonvi-R]

Im guessing you want to do this to dodge insurance? Or why bother for what it will cost?? You'll need to change all the petrol tank and fuel pipes aswell id asume...?

 

[yellonvi-R]

Driveshafts custom exhuast probly subframe. Brakes hubs.

 

[phey708]

Driveshafts custom exhuast probly subframe. Brakes hubs.

I would imagine a gearbox from a FR or Cupra Mk4 would marry up to the engine which would solve the drive-train/hub issue. I think the TDI engines use the same sub frame as the petrol engines. I think this project is quite interesting but expensive!

 

[ibizacuprabates]

Just buy a cupra, save urself money n time

 

[samussamus1]

I want to do it as my engine area needs £1200 spending on it.

Thanks to the people that actulay give me answers im looking for =]

 

[cupra.al]

you might not be getting all the answers your after but everyone is trying to help you out and save you money

 

[yellonvi-R]

I asked and i gave so ill take that as a thank you ;p

 

[mk4 cupra]

This sounds intreasting but may I ask have u throught about putting a golf vr6 engine in or maybe even a g60 engine maybe. The reason I ask is becasuse these are the more common ones to do so there for there is more custom parts around to do the job.

I love ur idea and am looking forwar to seeing how u get on I just through I'd say the above to give advise well kind of lol

 

[phey708]

I agree, you should look at a V6 24v conversion from a Golf! 200bhp standard plus a wicked soundtrack and all the looks that you will get

 

[JonnyH10]

Yea if your going to all that effort of fitting an engine that will need numerous custom parts, I'd go for the 24v VR6. Arguably less tuning potential, but the sound would make up for that plus the fact that it would be something different that probably hasn't been done before in a MK4.

 

[mk4 cupra]

Ok this guy had converted his mk4 tdi Cupra into a 20vt turbo so it's worth a look at for ideashttp://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=263506

 

[vroomtshh]

Why would anyone want a vr6 or a g60 over a BAM? BAM engine is virtually a straight swap into the car (your making it hard by starting with a diesel) and it makes more power than any g60 or vr6 is ever likely to.

You'd have to be mental to do either though

 

[phey708]

Why would anyone want a vr6 or a g60 over a BAM? BAM engine is virtually a straight swap into the car (your making it hard by starting with a diesel) and it makes more power than any g60 or vr6 is ever likely to.

Because there are off the shelve parts to turbo the VR6 that will easily make more BHP than the BAM engine when its mapped.

 

[vroomtshh]

Because there are off the shelve parts to turbo the VR6 that will easily make more BHP than the BAM engine when its mapped.

Yeh off the shelf parts to turbo a VR6 in a car its designed for. So no guarantee they'll fit in an Ibiza. Plus theres so many tuning options for a 1.8t engine, all it comes down to is budget. Power is the one thing thats totally irrelevant to both engines, as you can have as much power as you like from either