2.0 CR TDI FR DPF removal and remap?

Beano1989

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Had my car since November and had DPF light on four times now.

So I think it's now time just to get it removed and get it mapped at the same time.

Can anyone guide me with companies, prices and power etc?

Any help much appreciated.
 
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tinsleytdi

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Dec 16, 2012
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Milltek are currently developing a DPF delete pipe for our engine, I'm hoping to install it to mine when it's done. I've got the Revo stage 1 map (will get stage 2 when the DPF is gone), and milltek cat back. Not sure what power I'll get after.

You thinking of getting the EGR valve deleted? I can't seem to find (unbiased) info on it's purpose on our engine.
 

DEAN0

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Milltek are currently developing a DPF delete pipe for our engine, I'm hoping to install it to mine when it's done. I've got the Revo stage 1 map (will get stage 2 when the DPF is gone), and milltek cat back. Not sure what power I'll get after.

I hope you have a friendly MOT station.

DPF delete pipe will fail the MOT because you have visibly removed the DPF.

This is why people are having the middle removed from the DPF - so it still LOOKS standard.
 

TDI ste

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I hope you have a friendly MOT station.

DPF delete pipe will fail the MOT because you have visibly removed the DPF.

This is why people are having the middle removed from the DPF - so it still LOOKS standard.

Yeah Ive heard that about removing the middle. Tbh I couldnt be bothered having the DPF delete for MOT reasons.
 

tinsleytdi

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Speaking to Milltek, they say that although its designed for motorsport use the MOT will depend on the map. Revo isn't too aggressive so both milltek and the guys at bespoke performance think it'll be okay. Either way though I've got a nice tester.
 

DEAN0

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Speaking to Milltek, they say that although its designed for motorsport use the MOT will depend on the map. Revo isn't too aggressive so both milltek and the guys at bespoke performance think it'll be okay. Either way though I've got a nice tester.

NOT correct - the new MOT regs say that if it LOOKS like emission control equipment has been removed ( CAT or DPF ) - it is a fail.

The DPF delete pipe will LOOK like you have removed the DPF.

If the system LOOKS standard ( insides of the DPF removed ) and it passes the MOT soot test then it is a pass.
 

tinsleytdi

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NOT correct - the new MOT regs say that if it LOOKS like emission control equipment has been removed ( CAT or DPF ) - it is a fail.

The DPF delete pipe will LOOK like you have removed the DPF.

If the system LOOKS standard ( insides of the DPF removed ) and it passes the MOT soot test then it is a pass.

Spoke to my MOT tester about this and he said diesels are assessed on the exhaust density, so having the delete pipe might not mean it will fail it but if its mapped badly it will fail.

Any other testers out there able to give their version
 

DEAN0

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Spoke to my MOT tester about this and he said diesels are assessed on the exhaust density, so having the delete pipe might not mean it will fail it but if its mapped badly it will fail.

Any other testers out there able to give their version

My next door neighbour is an MOT tester.

The new MOT regs tell the tester to LOOK for obviously removed CAT or DPF.

If you have obviously removed the DPF ( DPF delete pipe ) then it should fail the mot.

If you have had the standard DPF box emptied and it passes the soot test then it will pass.
 

BaldyDave

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My next door neighbour is an MOT tester.

The new MOT regs tell the tester to LOOK for obviously removed CAT or DPF.

If you have obviously removed the DPF ( DPF delete pipe ) then it should fail the mot.

If you have had the standard DPF box emptied and it passes the soot test then it will pass.

I tend to agree with Deano on this one.... I looked into getting a DPF delete/remap done as well a couple of months back.

I am friendly with the guys at a local MOT station... They warned me off getting the DPF box replaced by a bypass pipe. They said the MOT regs would require them to fail a car if emissions equipment has been visibly tampered with, but did suggest that if the DPF box was still there (but the internals emptied), it would almost certainly pass if the remap had been done correctly so as not to produce too many emissions. They hinted that they would simply see the DPF box and look no further…. ;)

Sadly though My FR TDI is getting traded in due to some hassles (compounded by Dealer and Seat Customer Service issues). A pity really, but Seat’s loss will be Kia’s gain…. New Kia Procee’d due in 10 days!
 
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BaldyDave

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Had a look at those - just a pitty they dropped the 2.0tdi from the model.

True, but the Procee'd diesel is still nippy (obviously the FR 2.0 TDi would easily beat it!). The difference in the quality of the interior is staggrering compared to the FR though.... So much better in the Kia!

In any case I'm in the process of fixing my motorbike so if I feel the need for speed and to be scared shitless I'll use that! lol It might be a 35 year old Italian sports bike but it'll still hit 60 in less than 5 seconds! ;)
 
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DEAN0

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In any case I'm in the process of fixing my motorbike so if I feel the need for speed and to be scared shitless I'll use that! lol It might be a 40 year old Italian sports bike but it'll still hit 60 in less than 5 seconds! ;)

That the way to do it. A man after my own heart. Can't beat a motorcycle for the speed and the freedom. Good luck with the repairs.
 

BaldyDave

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+1 couldn't agree more, not many cars will beat my Honda CB1000R to 60......lol

Dave, what is this Italian exotica you have?

Well I don't think that either you or Deano would have anything to worry about if you had a drag race with me on my on my old Italian bit or iron! lol

I have a 1978 Moto Guzzi 850 Le Mans (MK1). It's got a 950 overbore and a proddy race cam and alloy timing gears..... Quite quick for an antique! ;)
 

DEAN0

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Well I don't think that either you or Deano would have anything to worry about if you had a drag race with me on my on my old Italian bit or iron! lol

I have a 1978 Moto Guzzi 850 Le Mans (MK1). It's got a 950 overbore and a proddy race cam and alloy timing gears..... Quite quick for an antique! ;)

Nice piece of machinery - thats the one like a honda cx500 - across the frame v-twin motor.
 

BaldyDave

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Errrrr...yeah but the CX500 was an ugly pig of a bike, even if despatch riders loved it! lol But yeah, you have the engine configuration spot-on - transverse v-twin engine with shaft drive.... :)
 
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