VW massaging emission figures

Irksome

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All diesel 1.6 and 2.0 tdi Exeos are affected ... the CR engine was retrofitted to the A4 platform!
 

leon_mike

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Interesting twist in Germany according to BBC news (can't post link):

"Volkswagen has been ordered to recall 2.4 million cars in Germany by the country's automotive watchdog as a result of the diesel emissions scandal."

Wonder how that will affect those who have remapped cars as looks like people will be forced to have their cars recalled.
 

Jimrod

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It's actually been announced by VW that they'll be recalling 8.5m cars across Europe now, not just Germany... It keeps getting better! :D
 

Corvus Cornix

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Checked my sons 2010 Ibiza 1.2tdi vin today. Guess what? Its affected.
Wonder when he and I (affected exeo) get a letter from Seat since there is no dealership here in Norway.
Both cars privat imported from Germay..
 
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CoupeKing

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I also now have lovely letter, despite the VIN website confirming in do not have an affected car. Doesn't fill me with confidence. I love the car though despite their massive balls-up.
Are there any Seat insiders on here who can give us an accurate idea about what the fix will actually consist of and impact on the car?
 

okedave

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I also now have lovely letter, despite the VIN website confirming in do not have an affected car. Doesn't fill me with confidence. I love the car though despite their massive balls-up.
Are there any Seat insiders on here who can give us an accurate idea about what the fix will actually consist of and impact on the car?

Im pretty sure if they knew themselves there would have been an announcement by now. This obviously wasnt something planned for so the engineers and the lawyers will be trying to work out something thats both a technical solution, and one that meets the legal requirements of various territories. Its possible something on that scale could take a couple of months.
 

CraigJack

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What happens if my car has been remapped? Will it wipe the map of I get the "fix"?


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Dan FR

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Yes it will, as the 'software fix' is essentially a modified factory map that will overwrite the map currently on there
 

Jimrod

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Think we missing the main point here, i tried to trade in my Seat Exeo to get a BMW, from two dealers, and they wouldn't take it in, as its affected they couldn't guarantee that they could sell it on, therefore in my eyes the car is worthless until its fixed........If the rumours are true there is an american paper who has been told of the costs, i can't find it again but around 2500 per car for parts, then labour..... 2.0tdi engines and above... how true this is i don't know...

All i know now is we have cars that are worthless.....until fixed

Well I've just put mine up on Autotrader so it'll be interesting to see what happens! Nothing to do with the emissions thing, just that my lease Yeti arrives in about a month! :D What crappy timing!
 

leon_mike

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Interesting that people are talking of receiving letters.

Manufacturers get details of owners from DVLA for recalls.

I only bought me Leon last week and don't even have the V5C back from DVLA.

Mines affected according to the website but obviously a lot of cars are going to exchange hands between now and the actual recall fix so will they'll surely have to check who the actual owners are closer to the time?
 

CharlySkunkweed

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Interesting that people are talking of receiving letters.

Manufacturers get details of owners from DVLA for recalls.

I only bought me Leon last week and don't even have the V5C back from DVLA.

Mines affected according to the website but obviously a lot of cars are going to exchange hands between now and the actual recall fix so will they'll surely have to check who the actual owners are closer to the time?

a guy on another forum got a letter even though he traded in the car a couple of weeks ago. There will be some cars that will get missed I'm sure.
 

mastepa1

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Can anyone answer why the injectors would need changing in the 1.6's?

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Dan FR

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Because a software patch alone isn't enough to rectify the issue without destroying performance and economy.
 
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ascu26

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Letter

I received a letter today from Seat saying that my car is affected my emission. It is a Seat Exeo from 2011.. 2.0 tdi 143hp

So at the moment I am on stand by i hope I will not have problems because I am a second user of this car .:(

Regards
Stefan
 

Corvus Cornix

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Jun 30, 2005
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Just wondering what would be the cheapest way to backup the ECU data so if an enforced re-write was detrimental to our cars performance we could restore the original.
I am thinking an OBD2 lead but what software would be required for say a Win 7/8 laptop?

Exeo has Bosch 17 tricore ecu with "tuning protection". You have to use a special interface cable that attached to ecu, pinned on with special tool or soldered on. Then you use a bootloader program to access the ecu.
This is nothing you do in your garage, but at your tuner. They saves the original map, and can always put it back. (usualy for money)
 

decadent

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Interest german article http://www.zeit.de/wirtschaft/unternehmen/2015-10/volkswagen-abgas-affaere-rueckruf-eintauschpraemie

suggests a potentially very attractive trade program for those with the 1.6l engine, presume due to the logistics and cost of repairing them. I'll await a British article.

I've also heard that our cars may fail MOTs if the recall isn't carried out. Personally I don't mind having the work done if it doesn't impact the performance of my car, however I'm almost certain whatever they do will make it a watered down version of its previous self.
 

richdot

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I'm glad I didn't get my dpf smashed out and mapped out... even though right now it really could do with being done! Seat told me they would get in touch within 2 weeks let me know what's going off.... well that was over 2 weeks ago.
 
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