Driving Modes

DANFR180

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Feb 8, 2016
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Im not sure if it s the same for all model years but the MY16 FR will revert the throttle response back to normal once the engine is switched off even if left in sport, although it will show sport as the mode selected. This is apparently to protect the engine on a cold start etc but does anyone know if it switches back to sport when up to temperature ? and also when the start stop is activated ?? I cant get my head round this as it seems to sometimes revert back to normal but not always, can be quite annoying
 

viilveer

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May 23, 2016
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When the start stop is activated ??
Start stop is activated when it is safe to do so. For example, when engine is cold, it does not stop. When engine is in working temperature, not in gear(manual transmission), and speed is under 5 kph then stop is engaged.
 

Stagsfell

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Feb 16, 2015
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Im not sure if it s the same for all model years but the MY16 FR will revert the throttle response back to normal once the engine is switched off even if left in sport, although it will show sport as the mode selected. This is apparently to protect the engine on a cold start etc but does anyone know if it switches back to sport when up to temperature ? and also when the start stop is activated ?? I cant get my head round this as it seems to sometimes revert back to normal but not always, can be quite annoying

My MY15 is the same, whereas I understand earlier MYs would remain in the selected mode. To quote the handbook (P170 in mine) "......... when the engine is restarted the engine and the gear will not restart in its sportier mode to save fuel. For engine and gear to revert to a sportier mode, select the corresponding driving profile again on the Easy Connect system screen." I take this to mean that it will NOT go back to sport engine mode irrespective of temperature or start/stop activation or any other condition unless you give the screen another prod after restarting on the key and this is certainly the case with mine.

It is indeed annoying and I don't bother with it, just press the throttle harder in normal when required!
 
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PHILMEWAGON

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Apr 4, 2013
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interesting. I noticed mine is often back in 'D' instead of 'S' but since ive driven it semi-auto more or less constantly since i got it it hasn't been a problem. I haven't noticed it switch back to 'S'.

I can't get away with full auto when i really want to drive the car as i like to have the correct gear for the corner im in and the DSG only works on revs not g-force :)
 

DANFR180

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Feb 8, 2016
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When the start stop is activated ??
Start stop is activated when it is safe to do so. For example, when engine is cold, it does not stop. When engine is in working temperature, not in gear(manual transmission), and speed is under 5 kph then stop is engaged.

Sorry I wasn't clear, I fully understand how the start stop works. what I mean is if you're in sport and you come to a stop activating the 'start stop system' when you then restart do you resume in sport or does the throttle revert to normal because the engine switched off?
 

Ckpearce91

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Feb 20, 2013
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Sorry I wasn't clear, I fully understand how the start stop works. what I mean is if you're in sport and you come to a stop activating the 'start stop system' when you then restart do you resume in sport or does the throttle revert to normal because the engine switched off?



It stays in sport mode. Start stop doesn't turn everything off, just the engine. I think it only resets the sport mode when it's been switched off with the key and left to cool down
 

DANFR180

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Interesting, It must just be in my head but im sure at times after the start stop its felt like its reverted to normal but ive stopped using it recently, Im not really a fan anyway. Then this morning it defiantly felt like it was in sport and i hadn't touched the modes, guess I must have broken her in :funk:
 

DANFR180

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Feb 8, 2016
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Dont have any of these problems when you change the thresholds for Start Stop using VCDS!

does changing the threshold for start stop also stop the engine mode reverting to normal after switch off ? or is there another setting to do that?
 

StylancePaul

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May 31, 2006
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does changing the threshold for start stop also stop the engine mode reverting to normal after switch off ? or is there another setting to do that?

The engine mode should never revert back, it didnt on my 2013 FR and doesn't on my 2015 Cupra. What does happen, regardless of the Start Stop is after stopping the engine the DSG Gearbox will revert to D mode rather than S mode, a condition I fully understand as I don't think I'd really want to Rev the nuts off my just started car.

I can have a poke with VCDS to see if there is anything obvious in the DSG gearbox module at the weekend if you like.
 

DANFR180

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Feb 8, 2016
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The engine mode should never revert back, it didnt on my 2013 FR and doesn't on my 2015 Cupra. What does happen, regardless of the Start Stop is after stopping the engine the DSG Gearbox will revert to D mode rather than S mode, a condition I fully understand as I don't think I'd really want to Rev the nuts off my just started car.

I can have a poke with VCDS to see if there is anything obvious in the DSG gearbox module at the weekend if you like.

I dont know exactly when they introduced it but the engine mode does revert to normal after you switch off, it will still show sport or individual as selected but the engine part will revert so alot of people probably don't even realise it! I just find it a bit annoying as im capable of not revving the nuts off it when its cold regardless of mode! mines manual by the way

may be able to change this with VCDS ?
 

Stagsfell

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Feb 16, 2015
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The engine mode should never revert back, it didnt on my 2013 FR and doesn't on my 2015 Cupra.

Can only speak definitively for my own car, but on my 15 MY FR it most definitely reverts back. Compare the wording from my 15 MY handbook quoted in my earlier post above with that from the 2013 MY handbook which is posted on the FAQ section and states (P173): "The vehicle will start in the mode that was selected at the moment it was switched off".

I guess it was changed somewhere between MY 13 and MY 15 but has caused a lot of confusion and annoyance!
 
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adamant

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May 13, 2014
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Interesting one this. My old 14 plate diesel FR didn't have any of the issues stated above however my 16 plate FR does. Mine has a few times gone back to eco mode and normal mode though when the engine has been turned off and left. Sometimes when driving it shows as been in sport mode though drives as in eco mode (performance wise) if I switch to eco then back to sport - I can certainly feel the difference. Glad it's not just me!!!

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Looie

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Apr 26, 2016
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Didn't even realise my new FR was doing this........ I thought I was leaving it in Sport mode and not looked or checked if it had changed... methinks a bit of checking in the morning is called for...

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POB

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I keep mine in the personalised mode. I have it set to normal steering, sport mode and red ambient lighting. It stays like this permantly, I never have to change it..
 

Seastormer

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Apr 25, 2014
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The engine mode should never revert back, it didnt on my 2013 FR and doesn't on my 2015 Cupra. What does happen, regardless of the Start Stop is after stopping the engine the DSG Gearbox will revert to D mode rather than S mode, a condition I fully understand as I don't think I'd really want to Rev the nuts off my just started car.

I can have a poke with VCDS to see if there is anything obvious in the DSG gearbox module at the weekend if you like.

My 2014 Cupra does this too, when you select Cupra or Sport as a mode it always chooses the S selection (on the GEAR stick - DSG only) If I park up in Cupra mode, when I restart next day it's still in Cupra mode but now D (as shown on display next to gear ) this is to give the engine time to warm up before the revs go too high. Once warmed up just pull the gear stick back and it toggles to S for full high revving Cupra mode. As for manuals, who knows.
 
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DANFR180

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Feb 8, 2016
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I keep mine in the personalised mode. I have it set to normal steering, sport mode and red ambient lighting. It stays like this permantly, I never have to change it..

that's what you think is happening but what the car is doing is actually tricking you by showing individual as still selected and keeping every element apart from the engine and throttle response which automatically reverts to normal unless you reselect the mode again each time you start the engine

page 170 in the user manual
 
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