Torco Unleaded Accelerator

[Cupra Belfast]

I was wondering if anybody uses this stuff, Torco Unleaded Accelerator? If so does it do what it says on the tin? Is it's safe & warranty safe? If so how much do folk add? I run my car on BP Ultimate 97 RON as it's the best available here, but even inside the filled cap says 98 RON, so I'd like to give it a whirl and see if there's a difference. Not as a perpetual habit, given the price.

On the instructions it says 40:1 with regular pump fuel (95 RON I'm guessing?) delivers 102 octane and 20:1 delivers 105. On that basis I'd hazard a guess 80:1 on 95 would deliver 98/99 RON or 160:1 on 97 RON would deliver 98/99RON? It comes in a 925 ml bottle for about 30 quid. So about 1/3 of a bottle in a tank (50 L tank, needs 312.5ml for 160:1, 1/3 bottle is 308 ml, roughly), a tenner for a bit of fun for a few hundred miles essentially? Or am I overoptimistic in finding a cure to Belfast's fuel quality problem?

Any knowledgable folk like to share their wisdom, or perhaps point me in the right direction?

Thanks in advance.

 

[mrratty]

Just stick with the BP97. Petrol generally drops octane over a few days anyway so just stick half a tank in athe a time.

The money saved on the additive will pay for extra fuel meaning you can boot it more.

 

[dw911]

Well unlike the stuff you buy at Halfords where you put in a couple of drops and it's suddenly going to give you many more horses and send your mpg into the high sixties this stuff will actually do what it says on the tin or more importantly what your after, higher octane.
I've never used this particular stuff, but I imagine it is just a slightly more expensive way of buying a stuff called toluene. If you look up its data sheet it will tell you what Torco is.
I've used toluene in cars at the track when I've needed race gas because either the track side fuel stop had none or because the car wouldn't run or shouldn't be run on anything less that a 102+
Or just for fun.
As for how much to use, I'd follow the manufacturer instructions, but never more than 30%.
But if your looking to use it long term, I'd look to buy it as toluene, as it will work out cheaper, available in 1 litre bottles right up to 55 gallon drums of the stuff
So to answer your question, yes it will raise your Ron number up to what you require

 

[CRNeo]

Yay another fuel additive thread

 

[dw911]

Yay another fuel additive thread

Lol, unlike most of the other threads this will actually do what it says, and not just the placebo effect
Look on the bright side, at least its not a bloody I get 70 mpg out my cupra/184/ 1.4 etc without even trying thread

 

[CRNeo]

Lol, unlike most of the other threads this will actually do what it says, and not just the placebo effect
Look on the bright side, at least its not a bloody I get 70 mpg out my cupra/184/ 1.4 etc without even trying thread

Haha true or a "I totally blew off this dude in a supercharged Ariel Atom in my derv FR with a tuning box fitted" thread

 

[dw911]

Haha true or a "I totally blew off this dude in a supercharged Ariel Atom in my derv FR with a tuning box fitted" thread

 

[rryans11]

I was wondering if anybody uses this stuff, Torco Unleaded Accelerator? If so does it do what it says on the tin? Is it's safe & warranty safe? If so how much do folk add? I run my car on BP Ultimate 97 RON as it's the best available here, but even inside the filled cap says 98 RON, so I'd like to give it a whirl and see if there's a difference. Not as a perpetual habit, given the price.

On the instructions it says 40:1 with regular pump fuel (95 RON I'm guessing?) delivers 102 octane and 20:1 delivers 105. On that basis I'd hazard a guess 80:1 on 95 would deliver 98/99 RON or 160:1 on 97 RON would deliver 98/99RON? It comes in a 925 ml bottle for about 30 quid. So about 1/3 of a bottle in a tank (50 L tank, needs 312.5ml for 160:1, 1/3 bottle is 308 ml, roughly), a tenner for a bit of fun for a few hundred miles essentially? Or am I overoptimistic in finding a cure to Belfast's fuel quality problem?

Any knowledgable folk like to share their wisdom, or perhaps point me in the right direction?

Thanks in advance.

It's a shame that the best we can get in Northern Ireland is 97RON - I'd be interested to know your findings with this and if there is much/any performance increase.

 

[Cupra Belfast]

Still trying to find out if it's warranty safe.

It's a shame that the best we can get in Northern Ireland is 97RON - I'd be interested to know your findings with this and if there is much/any performance increase.

Still trying to find out if it's warranty safe. So far google has let me know in the USA it is, but for the UK & Ireland I'm having difficulty in getting anything but people's opinions, no links to anything tangible. Not going to phone the stealers & ask them lol

If I manage to find out it is I'll certainly be giving the stuff a whirl & post about it. May even get the car on the rollers, so I'll have on paper the difference.

 

[Dr.Dash]

It contains MMT (Manganese) so strictly speaking that would make it unsuitable iaw SEAT's instruction to use no additives containing "metals".
There's also isooctane and isoalkanes (Heptane/Pentane?). I doubt that Torco publish the exact proportions of each, or even that it is consistent across batches, but it will increase the Octane rating.
There's no real reason that simply increasing octane rating should result in increased output, unless you're remapping the engine for increased boost/compression and are having issues with knocking.
Many boosters with MMT in them leave an amber/orange powdery residue post combustion, so not easy to hide the fact you've been using it should the need arise?

 

[Cupra Belfast]

Thanks for that.

It contains MMT (Manganese) so strictly speaking that would make it unsuitable iaw SEAT's instruction to use no additives containing "metals".
There's also isooctane and isoalkanes (Heptane/Pentane?). I doubt that Torco publish the exact proportions of each, or even that it is consistent across batches, but it will increase the Octane rating.
There's no real reason that simply increasing octane rating should result in increased output, unless you're remapping the engine for increased boost/compression and are having issues with knocking.
Many boosters with MMT in them leave an amber/orange powdery residue post combustion, so not easy to hide the fact you've been using it should the need arise?

That's what I was looking for. So not warranty safe. So I won't be using it. I guess what is essentially some sort of oxidised form of manganese getting into the oil, even in tiny amounts, over time may do damage? I'd guess I was interested as the dyno figure for my car seems to be bang on what's quoted for a Golf R (actually + 0.6 bhp) now that it's broken in, with an additional 10 lb ft of torque, on 97 RON, yet folk quote 300-310 bhp on 98/99 RON, so I though I'd see if there was a difference. Curiosity really.

Thanks again. So the answer is there's no quick fix to Belfast's fuel quality problem. I'd guess the ferry to Liverpool or Stranraer may be a bit ott, and it's doubtful Stranraer has the good stuff anyway lol

 

[kazand]

Not too sure if its relevant,but the label on the inside of the fuel flap on the 280 recommended 98 octane , on the latest 290 it says 95...
Still gets fed on a diet of Tesco Momentum though...

 

[Cupra Belfast]

Strange

Not too sure if its relevant,but the label on the inside of the fuel flap on the 280 recommended 97 octane , on the latest 290 it says 95...
Still gets fed on a diet of Tesco Momentum though...

Strange. On my 2015 280 ST (Chassis indicates March 2015, car registered June 2015) it says 98 RON on the filler flap.

 

[kazand]

Strange. On my 2015 280 ST (Chassis indicates March 2015, car registered June 2015) it says 98 RON on the filler flap.

I meant 98, fat fingers, alcohol, drugs, old age, senility ...

 

[mrratty]

Would you realistically be able to tell the difference between bp97 shell98 and tesco99 fuels?

And can you really use ALL of the cars performance on our shite roads. I assume you've got the sub8 pack on your car as a starting point

 

[MrRilo]

Would you realistically be able to tell the difference between bp97 shell98 and tesco99 fuels?

And can you really use ALL of the cars performance on our shite roads. I assume you've got the sub8 pack on your car as a starting point

Found this interesting, tested the output of a GTI using different petrols.

Fifth Gear Fuel test

Starts at 00:37.

 

[mrratty]

Seen that. I'd rather use bp97 and use the money saved by not buying additives on sticky tyres which will improve the useable performance everywhere

 

[Cupra Belfast]

I've got the 370mm Brembos, yes.

Would you realistically be able to tell the difference between bp97 shell98 and tesco99 fuels?

And can you really use ALL of the cars performance on our shite roads. I assume you've got the sub8 pack on your car as a starting point

I've got the 370mm Brembos, yes. If you read what I wrote it's more curiosity than anything. Since a go on the rollers is very reasonable locally I'd hoped to get it on them to see if there is indeed a difference. Also for planting it in gear in a straight line it'd be interesting to see if you can pick up a difference or not. Folk on here are tuning up their cars to pretty big number bhp, and it's doubtful half of them can utilise what the car has to offer as standard in anything but a straight line. That's not the point though.

 

[Cupra Belfast]

BP Ultimate is a waste of time then

Found this interesting, tested the output of a GTI using different petrols.

Fifth Gear Fuel test

Starts at 00:37.

BP Ultimate is a waste of time then. The only other stuff we can get in NI us Sainsbury's 97 RON and a 97 RON from Tesco (they don't do momentum here). Pity it can't be defined who supplies them.

 

[Cupra Belfast]

I'm getting just that when I manage to wear out the current ones

Seen that. I'd rather use bp97 and use the money saved by not buying additives on sticky tyres which will improve the useable performance everywhere

I'm getting just that when I manage to wear out the current ones. ASY 3 or SS. Since I live in Ireland it may well b ASY 3 as they're meant to be marginally better in the wet, and not far off the SS in the dry. Also, they're the only tyre approved for police pursuit vehicles in NI.