Attending a Trackday?

[vwtrev]

Wow, you done well to buy a car so already sorted, you say Group N discs but then Pagid disc's? I'd recommend not going Pagid discs on the front, look at Tarox or Godspeed discs. I ran Pagid plain front discs with XP10's and braking was very good, then went Tarox F2000 and DS2500's and braking went up a level again.

You need to get a camera in your car, we will want to see some footage from this beast!

 

[Nizza]

Yeah so group N is what was on the advert for sale. I’ve not even had the wheels off yet but planned to put different disks on. Was recommended to use OE disks from Ian at Carbotech as all the work is in the pads, the ds2500 won’t cut the biscuit.

I’ll take donations for a go pro ha ha the KW’s were £1900


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[Nizza]

Also I started to trim some fat from the doors....

And trimmed the central locking too ha ha

Need a small dreamer now to get into the smaller areas


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[vwtrev]

Funny you say that I spoke to Carbotech years ago to discuss why his pads were £100 more than DS2500's and he said difference is night and day, in my honest opinion I can't say I found the XP10/Pagid discs combo as good as my current setup, but I was always on the side of plain is better for surface area contact patch, but I was never happy with my brakes, then the Forge discs were recommended by a highly modded Ibiza owner and are one of the best brake improvements i've made.

The DS2500 I had as spare pads, so went on with the new discs, so I don't have an exact like for like comparison. But before and after, after was better. I would say the XP10's lasted 3 years/ 3000 miles were as with the Tarox discs (grooved) the pads wear much quicker (softer pads).

I will probably try XP12's next as more intrigued than anything to see if they can make my braking even better. Considering the level your car is at, I wouldn't recommend the XP10's, you atleast want XP12's.

 

[Nizza]

Some useful experience there!

So I guess this is the perfect place to get peoples view on a front brake setup that works best for the Leon as I’ve not ordered them yet.

I’m going to keep the Brembos definitely for now so advice on disk / pad combo is welcome!!


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[vwtrev]

Ofcourse, these are only my experiences and others will have other brake setups on here they may recommend.

Based purely on what i've read in the past, XP12's / Pagid RS / Carbone Lorraine (same as CarboTech really) may meet your requirements + highly recommend Tarox F2000 discs.

 

[Nizza]

What wheel set up is everyone running on their track car. Ie offset,spacers etc? Currently got the standard 18” on and standard brembos.

Need to source some slicks for it but also need the wheels to put them on, does anyone know if you can get a slick tyre to fit standard rims.

Has standard brakes so can I run 17”s?? As I’ve seen some wheels and can get slicks for 17”s

Any help would be great


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[Gokiwi64]

What wheel set up is everyone running on their track car. Ie offset,spacers etc? Currently got the standard 18” on and standard brembos.

Need to source some slicks for it but also need the wheels to put them on, does anyone know if you can get a slick tyre to fit standard rims.

Have a look here

http://www.avonmotorsport.com/motorsport/radial/18-radial-slick

Has standard brakes so can I run 17”s?? As I’ve seen some wheels and can get slicks for 17”s

Any help would be great


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[Fozzy84]

I run TD 1.2s, with Yoko AD08 18". Standard Brembo caliber but Ferodo DS 2500 pads with EBC grooved discs. Just upgraded to Brembo discs and feared DS 1.11 pads and first outing at Donny, last week if June. Need to get some cooling ducts though as warped the last ones

 

[vwtrev]

I've a spare set of standard Cupra R wheels with 225/40/18" R888R's on. Did toy with the idea of 245's but the price difference is massive. Also spacers, better for track width of car but I don't like the idea of extra unsprung weight so not done that yet, although might look at getting some aluminum ones made in the future.

 

[Sparkie]

Spacers is a big NO for me on track.
Have 2 mates had spacers. One had a wheel fall off in London.
The other lost 2 bolts on a track day.


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[Deleted member 103408]

I changed the offset on the wheels rather than putting spacers on.

 

[Sparkie]

I changed the offset on the wheels rather than putting spacers on.

Top man.
Exactly what you should be doing. Only way to go.




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[Sharpy]

Spacers is a big NO for me on track.
Have 2 mates had spacers. One had a wheel fall off in London.
The other lost 2 bolts on a track day.


Badger5 Custom Map + TIP,
3”Custom exhaust, FMIC, Bosh 550’s, BC Coilovers, ARB’s +loads more.

Why would that happen? I check my wheels torques when I was my car (which is a lot lol) and I’ve never found them to be loose... is it the curbs on tracks or the generally higher forces involved? Genuinely interested as I may well track my car at some point and do t want to lose a wheel!


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[Nizza]

Top man.
Exactly what you should be doing. Only way to go.




Badger5 Custom Map + TIP,
3”Custom exhaust, FMIC, Bosh 550’s, BC Coilovers, ARB’s +loads more.

What is the optimal offset you’ve found?


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[Deleted member 103408]

Just in case you guys and girls have missed it we are holding our national SCN Meet at Donnington Park on the 14th July.

You can get a few laps in as well as showing off your beasts.

Anybody interested just check out https://forums.seatcupra.net/index....ly-booking-information-and-discussion.450444/

 

[Nizza]

I've a spare set of standard Cupra R wheels with 225/40/18" R888R's on. Did toy with the idea of 245's but the price difference is massive. Also spacers, better for track width of car but I don't like the idea of extra unsprung weight so not done that yet, although might look at getting some aluminum ones made in the future.

Ah sounds good. Will have to let me know how you get on. What brake ducts are you going to source as I am in need of some not even managed to get underneath mine yet with all the interior work


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[Sparkie]

Why would that happen? I check my wheels torques when I was my car (which is a lot lol) and I’ve never found them to be loose... is it the curbs on tracks or the generally higher forces involved? Genuinely interested as I may well track my car at some point and do t want to lose a wheel!


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Exactly that.
The forces you put on the components are way higher
Main thing is its for prolonged periods too.
Your tyres get a beating, your oil under hard braking and long cornering, gets pushed up the walls of the engine leaving the sump lacking oil.
Oil temperatures become very high 118-120 is common without an oil cooler.
Suspension is taking a hammering too.
Was talking with an instructor at the Nurburgring and he estimated that every lap was the equivalent of 3000 miles of road going for your suspension.
I would never have spacers.
My pal is really cautious with stuff like torquing the nuts on his wheels. 2 weeks earlier BMW had the wheels off and re torqued them. Still came undone on track.


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[Sharpy]

Exactly that.
The forces you put on the components are way higher
Main thing is its for prolonged periods too.
Your tyres get a beating, your oil under hard braking and long cornering, gets pushed up the walls of the engine leaving the sump lacking oil.
Oil temperatures become very high 118-120 is common without an oil cooler.
Suspension is taking a hammering too.
Was talking with an instructor at the Nurburgring and he estimated that every lap was the equivalent of 3000 miles of road going for your suspension.
I would never have spacers.
My pal is really cautious with stuff like torquing the nuts on his wheels. 2 weeks earlier BMW had the wheels off and re torqued them. Still came undone on track.


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Thanks good to know! At the very least I’ll take them off for any track time I may do! It’d be an expensive day out if I lost a wheel.

Really appreciate the response.


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[Nizza]

Hi does anyone know if these will go in my mk1 Lcr as I think I can source some slick tyres that will fit these rims. They are 5 x 100 et35

I can get slicks for the standard rims but they’re a little too wide which I would not prefer to have ie would need an 8.5j wheel.


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