Fr sport dsg 150

jshumphries

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After lurking for too long but taking it all in.

I'm off to look at a 19 plate fr sport 1.5 dsg tomorrow. Is there anything specific I need to look out for.

I'm coming from an ibiza 1.2 fr 65 plate so hoping its not too much of a change.

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Wilkesy

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I came from Ibiza to a Leon about a month ago, the bite took some getting used to, it’s nice to have a lot more powerful car though.
 
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Mr Pig

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I've had both the Ibiza 1.2 and Leon 1.4 FR.

The Ibiza is smaller, feels smaller and is more fun to punt around town. Which is great but it's no so much fun if you need to go a distance on the motorway where the lack of weight and refinement soon grow tiresome.

My Ibiza was the 110hp one and the Leon 150. The Leon is faster but in most circinstances the Ibiza feels faster, just because it's smaller, but don't worry. The Leon still feels perky and responsive. It's a good compromise. I've had both, I prefer the Leon.

I've also driven the 2019 DSG 1.5 Leon FR. Sorry, I do not like the DSG gearbox. Cool flappy paddles or not, it's still just an automatic and the things I disliked about them thirty years ago I still dislike about them today. Also, if you drive an auto exclusively for any length of time it will be very hard to go back to a manual. I know people who are completely unable to drive a manual car now.

Not preaching, your choice. I just don't feel a car that claims to be sporty has any business having and automatic gearbox in it.
 
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Glosphil

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I have owned DSG cars for 7 years & yet have no problem driving my wife's manual Clio on the very rare occasions it is necessary.
I will never go back to owning a manual car.
Two of my friends have bought their first DSG cars after driving mine. However, I fully understand some drivers preference for manual cars.
 
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Mr Pig

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I will never go back to owning a manual car.

Most of the people who buy autos say that. Personally, I enjoy the whole experience of driving and hate anything that takes control away from me and gives it to a computer. I hate electric hand brakes and even automatic wipers and air con which turns itself on if you crank the blower up full. It's my car and I'm perfectly capable of deciding for myself whether or not I want the wipers on or what gear I want to be in and I've never met a computer that agrees with me!
 

HighFlyingBird

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Most of the people who buy autos say that. Personally, I enjoy the whole experience of driving and hate anything that takes control away from me and gives it to a computer. I hate electric hand brakes and even automatic wipers and air con which turns itself on if you crank the blower up full. It's my car and I'm perfectly capable of deciding for myself whether or not I want the wipers on or what gear I want to be in and I've never met a computer that agrees with me!
I'll admit I've had a brain fart when jumping into a manual car since getting a DSG, I'd go back to a manual but only if the car was something special. I do like all the auto gimmicks, probably because I'm lazy though plus they seem to impress passengers most of the time.
 

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Most of the people who buy autos say that. Personally, I enjoy the whole experience of driving and hate anything that takes control away from me and gives it to a computer. I hate electric hand brakes and even automatic wipers and air con which turns itself on if you crank the blower up full. It's my car and I'm perfectly capable of deciding for myself whether or not I want the wipers on or what gear I want to be in and I've never met a computer that agrees with me!

Well as you've started. I fully understand what your saying, took me ages to get used to an auto, I'd not like one without those cool flappy paddles through, of which were better on the Mk.2, but you do learn to control what gear you require and when, so nice when you hit traffic and pop it back into D, all that said, when you jump back into a manual it does make you feel your more part of the car even through you can't change gear as quick.

My Mk.3 has wipers with a mind of their own of which move each time I switch the car on/off, no doubt will have wrecked wiper rubbers when froze to the screen for some, they also either wipe the screen before it needs wiping or until I can hardly see in front of me, quite safe I'm sure. The lights also do there own thing to suit themselves together with the instrument display, only way I know if the lights are on/off is by looking at the two red lights by the map reading lights, quite safe I'm sure.

Hand brake I no longer consider I have unless I'm on a steep hill as a friends wouldn't release, quite safe I'm sure.

Also when I press to recirc. button the a/c switches on so I now have to switch it off, safe I'm sure as now I have to look away from the road once again.

All these features to make us all safer and yet I still run out of screen wash without warning as no low warning light, must be safe I'm sure to just run out 30 miles from the nearest services on a motorway on a damp morning with light spray around with the sun directly on the front of the car.

All that said, easy to criticise any car and no idea what else I'd buy for the money which is so comfortable (although not quite as good for me as the Mk.2) and fuel efficient with I'm sure many other good features..
 
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Mr Pig

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My Mk.3 has wipers with a mind of their own of which move each time I switch the car on/off..

Another nannying design feature. The blade sits on the glass one way while the car is off and flips over to the other side when the car is switched on. The idea is that it makes the blade last longer as it's not resting on one side all the time. Can't say I've noticed the blades lasting longer and I also wonder about what happens when the motor tried to move wipers that are frozen to the window.

Justifies jobs. People get paid for making things better, not leaving them the hell alone.
 

Yern

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The wiper movement (officially called 'alternative parking position') I thought was a fault when I got the car, found the explanations on a VW site. It only takes place after a pre-determined number of start-ups so appears random and don't worry about the wipers frozen as the movement doesn't happen when stationary only takes when moving off at a couple of mph and most people defrost the screen when stationary.
 

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The wiper movement (officially called 'alternative parking position') I thought was a fault when I got the car, found the explanations on a VW site. It only takes place after a pre-determined number of start-ups so appears random and don't worry about the wipers frozen as the movement doesn't happen when stationary only takes when moving off at a couple of mph and most people defrost the screen when stationary.


Mrs Seriously has had her ST for a while now and I'd noticed the 'wiper dance' thing and assumed it was some sort of electrical gremlin.
Thanks for the heads-up; it'll save me looking a complete muppet when it goes in for a service and I ask them to look at a non-existent fault.
 
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