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2.0 TDI FR Questions

Discussion in 'Ibiza Mk5' started by owen123, Jun 11, 2019.

  1. owen123

    owen123 Member

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    Hi,

    I am on the hunt for a 2.0 TDI FR Ibiza (most likely 2010-2011), and was wondering if anyone could answer a couple questions.

    > I gather the 2.0 TDI CR is a pretty solid engine, do you know if the 2010s suffer from the problems with the oil pumps as with the early CR engines?

    > Any idea how much a DPF replacement would cost?

    > Linked to the above, any tips on coming by parts? The car has an advisory for corrosion on the back box, but looking online it seems very difficult to source one as the 2.0 TDI is not a common engine for the Ibiza - any idea if the 1.6 TDI back box would be suitable?

    Other than that anything to look out for when going to see cars - I'm hopefully going to see a Galia Blue one on Friday.

    Thanks in advance,

    Owen
     
  2. MIH11MI6

    MIH11MI6 Full Member

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    Hey,

    I engine swapped a 2.0tdi from a 2010 (60) FR earlier this year. The engine is on 134K miles now and I haven't had any problems. I did the water pump and cam-belt when I had the engine out.

    DPF Replacements will be available from exhaust shops, however you're going to be looking between the £500-£750 mark minimum for a replacement DPF new. I removed mine and saw considerable power and economy gains, but i understand if you wouldn't want to do that.

    In terms of the backbox replacement, the exhausts on the CR from the 1.6tdi and 2.0tdi are the same. the only difference with the 1.2tdi is that there is no centre silencer. I am running no backbox, no centre silencer and no DPF and the engine produces little difference in noise. I would say if you are unable to source a backbox a backbox delete with a shiny tip will do you the best. You will have no problems with your MOT aswell, mine has been through 2 MOTs with the backbox out and it wasn't even mentioned.

    If you have any other questions please let me know :)
     
  3. owen123

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    Hi,

    Thanks for your advice, was there a reason you swapped or just mileage / age?

    Yeah I thought the dpf would be about that, but then any modern diesels have them so just have to factor it into the running costs. I would maybe get it removed if it started causing problems, although the new MOT laws make that a bit more interesting.

    Anything to look out for when I go to see it, aside from normal stuff like service history etc.

    Thanks
     
  4. MIH11MI6

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    No problem, I enjoyed my 1.2TDI but i wanted more power, wanted to keep the economy and I like a challenge so thought why not. It was also the most economical solution to get what I wanted. I did the engine swap and made money in the process. I put an engine with higher mileage from an older car in so wasn't a concern for me.

    Yeah i mean it can be a bit of a pain with the DPF. You can get away with it but its better to know a tester, i completely understand if you don't wanna do that.

    As far as the CFHD engine they're pretty bulletproof. I mean as it is with most diesels, the Turbos usually go before any other components, mine had quite a bit of shaft play but i didn't worry so much because i plan on going hybrid turbo.

    Only other thing is the EGR valves on these are a bit meh, if you aren't commuting/ giving it a good run very often i would consider something else because these don't like being poodled around town. I know someone who had one and EGR blocked and DPF went because she did 5 miles a day.

    They would be my considerations, but don't be scared of going for it its one hell of an engine, Depending where you're based i'd be happy to take you for a drive in mine so you can get a proper impression before you buy. Let me know if you're interested :)

    Cheers,

    Matt
     
  5. owen123

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    Ah okay, Thanks for the heads up about the CFHD engine - Wikipedia seems to suggest it uses the CBAB, but I found a seat document stating it uses the CFHD.

    The car is on 75K so hopefully it'll last a bit longer before the turbo goes.

    I read up on the egr valve, have you removed yours or left it in? I looked at the diy swap, might be a bit too far for me to go at home

    My shortest journeys tend to be 10 miles, as of next month I'll be doing 40-50 miles a day so hopefully with spirited driving on weekends the EGR/DPF will stay clear for a while longer.

    Thanks for your offer, I live in Norwich but I am visiting family near Cambridge at the minute, I'll send you a message if this lead doesn't pan out on Friday. I've driven 2.0 VW TDIs before and currently drive a mk4 Polo so I'm fairly into VAG cars.
     
  6. owen123

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    Just to add to the above, I generally do minimum 10K a year, but often nearer to 15K.
     
  7. MIH11MI6

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    well what a coincidence, I live in Norwich aswell!

    75K miles is perfectly acceptable for that engine, it'll be barely run in. you should be all good.

    and yeah both my EGR & DPF are deleted. Made a considerable difference.

    If you're local you're welcome to add me on facebook and if you have any other questions or anything i'd be happy to help :)
     
  8. owen123

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    That's handy!

    Yeah that's what I thought, and the cambelt/waterpump were done at 60K so don't have to worry about that for a while.

    I assume the EGR valve is on the back of the engine as with most CRs as far as I can tell, so would probably need a ramp to get it out to clean?
     
  9. MIH11MI6

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    Yeah it is, I just deleted it and blanked it off, worked out cheaper than a clean. LRP Automotive in Loddon are really really good for maps, exhausts, DPF & EGR work if you're looking for somewhere reputable :)
     
  10. owen123

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    Ah okay, I imagine what i'll do is keep it stock until it causes problems, then get it all sorted at once. Thanks for the recommendation, i'll keep them in mind for the future. Anyway thanks for your help :)
     

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