a new diesel tuning company

[zach225]

hi guys,

just wanted to post up about a company I have recently used for a bit of turbo work.

They are called Dirt Torque Developments and specialise in diesels.

its run by 2 brothers Dean and Karl. Both sound as a pound and really know their stuff, and if they dont know, they'll tell you they dont and then find out for you! you wont get any bullsh1t from them about anything, just sound help and advice. Their main goal is to make customers happy and not just rinse them for stuff, if you dont need it they wont sell it to you and will do their best to make sure you leave with a smile.

I used them to fit and map my GTB2260 kit and to say I was happy with the service would be a massive understatement.

they were extremely helpful and efficient the whole way through and the car is now awesome.

They are a new business and offer a variety of services including custom maps, clutches, hybrid turbos's and their very own GTB2260VK conversion kit aswell as their custom made nozzles which is producing some pretty impressive power!!

take a look at their website and give them a shout if there is anything you need

http://www.dirty-torque.net/

cheers

zach

(I am in no way associated with them or their busniess, I just want to spread the word and get their name out there)

 

[zach225]

hi guys,

just wanted to post up about a company I have recently used for a bit of turbo work.

They are called Dirt Torque Developments and specialise in diesels.

its run by 2 brothers Dean and Karl. Both sound as a pound and really know their stuff, and if they dont know, they'll tell you they dont and then find out for you! you wont get any bullsh1t from them about anything, just sound help and advice. Their main goal is to make customers happy and not just rinse them for stuff, if you dont need it they wont sell it to you and will do their best to make sure you leave with a smile.

I used them to fit and map my GTB2260 kit and to say I was happy with the service would be a massive understatement.

they were extremely helpful and efficient the whole way through and the car is now awesome.

They are a new business and offer a variety of services including custom maps, clutches, hybrid turbos's and their very own GTB2260VK conversion kit aswell as their custom made nozzles which is producing some pretty impressive power!!

take a look at their website and give them a shout if there is anything you need

http://www.dirty-torque.net/

cheers

zach

(I am in no way associated with them or their busniess, I just want to spread the word and get their name out there)

 

[FR_MATT]

I've read about these guys on Briskoda they sound good!

 

[zach225]

good prices too i think

 

[great_kahn]

Prices look good to me

What sort of labour rates they charging?

 

[zach225]

they like to quote by job generally.

i know fitting a turbo is £275 inc genuine gaskets oil and filter...

have a chat with them dude and see what they say

 

[zach225]

oh and its 'dirty torque' not dirt......whoops

 

[great_kahn]

they like to quote by job generally.

i know fitting a turbo is £275 inc genuine gaskets oil and filter...

have a chat with them dude and see what they say

Don't need anything doing atm touch wood. Good to know there is somewhere localish that do good work at decent price.

 

[Raymonndo]

They look good . Prices seem good too!

 

[George Agdgdgwn]

We have held off from doing this for a while now after stumbling across the Dirty Torque website, but since Dean and Karl are now getting customers to plug them on the forums and also dropping hints about their turbo kits when people ask about our kits, I think it is time we tell the truth on how Dirty Torque Developments came about.

I own Darkside Developments with my bro Ryan.

Dean from DTD bought an old turbo setup from Ryan around April last year. From there he sent over 200 emails asking about everything you can imagine to do with diesel tuning. When he was down on cash we helped him out by buying some parts from him for much more than we usually would. We even sold him Powergate Tool so he could tune the ECUs as he wanted to be a 'dealer' for our products and needed us to help him set up a website to advertise the products on. He would be our ‘fitting centre’ down South.

Dean knew who we used for some of our fabrication work, and must have decided to cut us out of the picture. We later found out that Dean drove from getting a load of money from us, straight to the fabricator to discuss their new business venture!

We used this particular fabricator for 1 Manifold and some flanges. All the flanges were all bent and the manifold had very poor welding, so we decided not to use him again. Since then we have heard some horror stories of the manifolds he makes breaking and poor customer service etc.
We paid for the jig for the manifold and the CAD for the flanges so it is yet another stepping stone we created for DTD.

Since we declined to help Dean with the website (why should we help someone set up a business?), he seems to have took it upon himself to use all of our information as his own.

Take a look at their Turbo Kit listing:

http://www.dirty-tor...ts/show/3059915

Look familiar?

http://www.darksided...di-engines.html

It’s a pretty much copy and paste affair of ours in most part.

Also, did they show you their ‘Demo Car’?

‘We currently run this turbo kit on our own Skoda Fabia Vrs TDI PD130 Demo Car which achieves 235bhp /360lbsft’

Have you seen this before? Yep you sure have:

We fitted that kit with our own bare hands as well as doing all the tuning, it was one of the first we did. Karl, Dean’s brother bought it from the customer we did all the work for (Luke) and now they are passing it off as their work!

If price is all someone is bothered about, I am sure they will go with the DirtyTorque Kit, but we have sold 70 Turbo Kits in just over 18 months, so that shows you something. We used Brand New Genuine Garrett Turbochargers with a 1 Year Warranty, and our Manifolds and Downpipes have a lifetime warranty against cracking. You need to compare apples with apples. Their kits are a little cheaper than ours, but we don’t make a crazy amount on them, so something has got to give. You squeeze on price, you have the squeeze on quality somewhere.

I am sure Dean will come up with some crazy story about how we are lying and that everything was their own idea, but he thinks we are stupid, getting his brother and friends to email us and ring us to ask advice on what to fit etc. Its not clever, it just makes them look like novices.

They are also claiming 328bhp at the flywheel with a set of Firad 80% Injectors. I have no doubt the Injectors will do that power, but there is no way the stock head and camshaft will flow that amount of power, no matter how much fuel, NOS, Water/Meth or fairy dust you pile in there.

You can buy the fake Adidas, or buy the real deal. Its your choice.

Thanks

Scott

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[Raymonndo]

What I initially thought was names are unbelievably alike! Makes you think after reading the above!

 

[great_kahn]

Thread just got interesting.

Bad times if they have indeed done what you say they have.

 

[Bondiblu]

Not a good way to get Rep I have to admit! Oops

 

[zach225]

I thought there might be a reply like this turn up

I can't comment as I didn't know them then. What I can say is that the story that dean and Karl tell is significantly different!

I advise hearing both sides of a story before making your decision.

I'd also like to point out that the darkside kit from the fabia is on my car. And although a similar kit, the dirty torque kit was built from scratch which is why it has taken them nearly a year and in person is actually quite different. Unfortunately a tubular manifold designed for the same engine and turbo is going to have similarities.

That fabia now has the dirty torque kit and their own software so what car it is is irrelevant.

 

[George Agdgdgwn]

We would also like to hear their side, but he wouldn't answer the phone to Ryan a few months ago and sent a 1 line email when Ryan asked about the kit.

Why have they taken the kit off the Fabia to put another one on? Oh right, to copy it! There is no other reason they would take it off, to put practically the same kit back on. If its taken them a year to do that, I am a little worried.

Its a right old mess this, but glad you have our kit on your car, least you know you won't have any issues with it Maybe the thanks should be to them for the Software (that was developed with us by Mike at TDTuning in the USA) and thanks to us for the kit?

Don't want to drag you into it as you have just got yourself a good deal on a great product, I think we just need to be open and honest about what has gone on.

I can't wait to hear this amazing other side to the story. Dean can tell a good tale.

Thanks

Scott

 

[zach225]

Yeh I have no interest in getting into a he said she said argument. I wasn't there, I can't comment

I bought my kit separate, they fitted and mapped it. Have been talking to him for months and was happy with the service.

I was originally going to use you for a new kit but found a second hand kit, you did have my hard earned for the southbend and peloquin tho haha

 

[cupra.al]

there website is pretty rubbish in comparison to darkside that was my first thought when i had a look at the link in the first post.

 

[phillpotts92]

Running their map and impressed with it tbh......

 

[MJ]

Looks very "darkside" to me, even the pictures. If they are affiliated with darkside then good. The more companies like them the better.

 

[big rich]

To be honest the first post does look like your associated with them in some way, i think the only thing you missed off is a phone number, its not exactly subtle..