A week with the new Seat-issues!

Jase

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Hi All,

I am a newbie,posted in newbie section to say hello, then posted about door locking issue. I need to thank someone but cant find the post now! (maybe I am missing something?).

Anyway, I have a 2008 Ibiza sport 1.4 in Amarillo citrus. So far happy with it but have a couple of questions/issues to raise.

1/ I have noticed some surface rust which is located on either of car where the bottom of the wing meets the floor pan, there is a recess area. I think what has happened dirt/water has accumulated in thsese areas and not been cleaned often enough and has caused rough paint/bubble spots. I was thinking of making an anti-perforation claim but I think it may be a waste of time. I am getting a quote for the paintwork, and gonna take some advice from an expert first.

Anyone have any experience of making a warranty claim?


2/ The car has a full Seat dealer history, the current mileage is 49660 and it had a cambelt/water pump changed 21/6/12 at mileage 23904 so since then the car has done some 25756 miles. I have contacted SEAT to confirm their "recommendations" on cambelt change intervals.

]So basically I am asking put aside the fact its over 5years since the belt was changed, assuming car driven carefully (4 further Seat SERVICES in book since belt changed!). Can I expect a few more miles out of this belt?before I have to think about changing it again?
I do understand parts can go anytime,the belt undergoes lots of stress etc. I was thinking to drive car till 60,000miles then get it checked or replaced?

Any pointers on the above would be welcomed, thanks for wading through the post!.

Jason
 

RUM4MO

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Hello and welcome!

For my money, get that cambelt and other bits that come with the standard kit changed now, maybe plus a new water pump.

It is normally not the cambelt itself that fails, it seems like it is more often an idler/tensioner etc that fails and wrecks the cambelt and so maybe the engine.

My wife used to own a 2002 Polo 1.4 16V - I got the cambelt etc replaced at 4.5 years and about 35K miles, 9.0 years and another 35K miles, so now 70K miles in total and would have done that work again at 13.5 years 105K miles approx. if we had still owned it.

My daughter has a late 2009 1.4 16V Ibiza SC and I got her to get it changed at about 4.5 years 30K miles and will get her to get it replaced again when she is on holiday late summer next year, so that means at almost 9.0 years and 50K miles.

Look on it as essential preventative maintenance.

Edit:- by the way, I don't like spending money on these things either, but if you want to possibly avoid spending even more money on repair work, my advice is still to get it replaced with all the necessary bits including a new - or probably exchange water pump. Unfortunately, my wife's new Polo bought new in August 2015 also has a cam belt so that means it will need replacing sooner than later! VW Group tried using a cam chain but messed that up and returned to designing engines with cam belts!
 
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dm222

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I contacted SEAT regarding changing intervals because the manual is not clear and they said to contact the dealer.
If you have an answer please share it.
 
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RUM4MO

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The thing is, when or if a car maker states that the cambelt requires replacing along with some other associated items at 4 years 45K miles 0r 60Kms, at some later one, that information tends to slip to 4 years 35K miles or 50Kms - and that owners handbook will not get updated.

I think that it has been written somewhere, I can't say by "who" and it certainly was not any VW Group marque information, that for cars manufactured up to 2007 use the "4 years 45K miles, from 2008 onwards the cambelt change period went up to 5 years ??K miles. This might have been due to fewer parts being used on the cambelt drive train on the later cars, though I think that there was an option to leave out the extra parts when changing the cambelt on the earlier cars.

Too many "ifs" and "buts" - sorry, but once again did VW Group officially alter that later guidance and not issue that info to owners?
 

dm222

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Dec 7, 2013
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The thing is, when or if a car maker states that the cambelt requires replacing along with some other associated items at 4 years 45K miles 0r 60Kms, at some later one, that information tends to slip to 4 years 35K miles or 50Kms - and that owners handbook will not get updated.

I think that it has been written somewhere, I can't say by "who" and it certainly was not any VW Group marque information, that for cars manufactured up to 2007 use the "4 years 45K miles, from 2008 onwards the cambelt change period went up to 5 years ??K miles. This might have been due to fewer parts being used on the cambelt drive train on the later cars, though I think that there was an option to leave out the extra parts when changing the cambelt on the earlier cars.

Too many "ifs" and "buts" - sorry, but once again did VW Group officially alter that later guidance and not issue that info to owners?

Just a thought. As you said, usually, the belt is not the cause when there are problems.
But... I think the belt is the component who's condition is more age dependent
 
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