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dw911

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Absolute shyte

They said that about lots of these 4x4 things, when Porsche announced the Porsche cayenne old school porsche owners were pulling out their beards and saying how **** it would be, turned out to be one of their best selling models and was very good, even better with the later models , if a bit ugly to look at, now they are all making then, even Bentley , although that is pig ugly.
Personally if it's priced right and you need that sort of vehicle I think it will do quite well.
For the exact same reason people buy leons instead of golfs
 

Wings988

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Yeah, I'd rather not drive around in a plastic 4x4. Absolute shite.

Yeah me too but the sheep love these things so I reckon it'll help boost SEAT sales so why not make it.

The vast amount of Nissan Jokes and Renault Tadjars I see has convinced me most folk don't care what they drive or how it drives they just want the plastic 4x4 look, a view further reinforced by the fact that people actually buy Citroën Cocktus :hide:
 

LeonST Wales

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Yeah me too but the sheep love these things so I reckon it'll help boost SEAT sales so why not make it.

The vast amount of Nissan Jokes and Renault Tadjars I see has convinced me most folk don't care what they drive or how it drives they just want the plastic 4x4 look, a view further reinforced by the fact that people actually buy Citroën Cocktus :hide:


These Chelsea tractors are driven by two kinds of people generally.........Soccer moms on the school run and gentlemen who are deficient in the trouser department and think of them as a manhood extension :rofl::p
 

CRNeo

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Wow... wasn't expecting such hate.

I don't think it's the worst idea ever.... but then if I wanted a bigger/faster car I'd probably buy a cupra ST over anything else.
 
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yellowcone87

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Personally I think these fake SUVs only make sense if you keep it cheap.
It's too soft and fragile to be great off road, too tall and springy to be great on road, and isn't actually any bigger than a hatch if you forget headroom. The boot is over a hundred litres smaller than the Leon ST.
I absolutely see the appeal of the Ateca if you specifically want that crossover look, but if you're going to pay 35k for a sporty car, there are much better choices available in my opinion. It's trying too hard to be too many things.
 

andrewpain

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These Chelsea tractors are driven by two kinds of people generally.........Soccer moms on the school run and gentlemen who are deficient in the trouser department and think of them as a manhood extension :rofl::p

I should ease off a bit on the vitriol.
There are people out there who find the crossover attractive purely because of the height of the seat for getting in and out. Like me.
So back off with the insults.
 

Cupra Belfast

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They are hugely dangerous to pedestrians

Ordering people how to think and what they can/cannot say isn't really on. SUVs/crossovers are more likely to kill pedestrians, specifically children, as the impact time isn't spread out by rolling over the bonnet, the impact approximates to instantaneous. Collision avoidance systems aren't foolproof. In that if someone needs a SUV/4x4 for work, for perhaps towing on poor surfaces, if they live somewhere with access issues, or to compensate for physical limitations, then fine, it's an acceptable vehicle to purchase. Preferring them without genuine necessity means the person selecting to drive a vehicle like this is basically advertising their personality to the general public.
 

bretth1974

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I don't need a car that does 155mph and 0-60 in less that 6 seconds but I chose to buy one.

Similarly people are perfectly entitled to buy a SUV if that's what they want and shouldn't be criticised for it.

Also the Alteca actually has a better pedestrian encap score (71%) than the Leon (70%)

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Cupra Belfast

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The ncap score principally relates to the avoidance systems. You hit a pedestrian any the impact isn't spread out. The damage is greater. Dry your eyes. You can justify such a vehicle in whatever manner you wish. You will certainly be demonstrating your personality. It's perfectly apparent in your posting.
 

chrisRibiza

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Preferring them without genuine necessity means the person selecting to drive a vehicle like this is basically advertising their personality to the general public.

Come on.... What a load of rubbish!

I doubt anyone buys a car based on damage limitation for knocking down pedestrians. No one (sane) goes out to intentionally knock people down!!
 

bretth1974

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The ncap score principally relates to the avoidance systems. You hit a pedestrian any the impact isn't spread out. The damage is greater. Dry your eyes. You can justify such a vehicle in whatever manner you wish. You will certainly be demonstrating your personality. It's perfectly apparent in your posting.

What was risible about what I posted? :shrug:

Also why do I need to dry my eyes, and what is my personality.....if we are judging it by the cars we drive I have the same personality as you, which has me very worried.
 
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Cupra Belfast

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Come on.... What a load of rubbish!

I doubt anyone buys a car based on damage limitation for knocking down pedestrians. No one (sane) goes out to intentionally knock people down!!

Nobody sane knocks people down on purpose, but those with the wit to realise such things aren't 100% avoidable and decides upon an unnecessary vehicle that has that possible pitfall as one of it's lists of drawbacks, coupled with the image issues etc. is making a decision that is self centred. Unless you fit one the categories detailed in my initial post there isn't really any justification for owning a 4x4/suv/crossover. It's principally an image choice, being no more practical than an estate, in fact in this case less practical. That projected image isn't a good one. there are a category of overcompensating folk drawn to such vehicles. I simply pointed out a valid argument as to why they're an inconsiderate choice. There are others. What you have stated is intentionally missing the point.
 

Cupra Belfast

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Your 'I'm alright jack' justification attempts, the risible bit is all encompassing,

What was risible about what I posted? :shrug:

Also why do I need to dry my eyes, and what is my personality.....if we are judging it by the cars we drive I have the same personality as you, which has me very worried.

Risible: Your 'I'm alright jack' justification attempts.

The dry your eyes bit it trying to tell people what they can and can't say, whinging like a child that doesn't like something they cannot control, essentially. I certainly don't think the fact I drive a leon means I have a similar personality to you. I'd be pretty certain that I don't share much else in common with you. If you need it spelled out, the personality that seems to come across from your posting is self centred, with a smattering of public school boy and an inflated sense of self worth.

The more you type, the more I think you should buy a 4x4 and join the Chelsea tractor brigade. You'll certainly fit in.
 

bretth1974

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Risible: Your 'I'm alright jack' justification attempts.

The dry your eyes bit it trying to tell people what they can and can't say, whinging like a child that doesn't like something they cannot control, essentially. I certainly don't think the fact I drive a leon means I have a similar personality to you. I'd be pretty certain that I don't share much else in common with you. If you need it spelled out, the personality that seems to come across from your posting is self centred, with a smattering of public school boy and an inflated sense of self worth.

The more you type, the more I think you should buy a 4x4 and join the Chelsea tractor brigade. You'll certainly fit in.

Thanks for clearing that up.... And I went to a comprehensive btw.
 
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kazand

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:snack: oh yes, and I'd love a Range Rover Sport SVR , just for the engine note.... but given that it would probably sup unleaded at a far greater rate than the current Cupra, I could no longer afford to pay the butler, so he'd have to go.... but the thought of filling the car up myself :think:
As regards pedestrians, I don't plan on driving on the pavement , so shouldn't hit any as they shouldn't be in the road....
As for Euro N crap, how many vans, trucks & buses are on the road? They all look pretty flat fronted to me, and ask a crash test dummy , would he sooner be hit by a 4 x 4 at 40, or 49 tonnes of Volvo FH12 at the same speed?
Each to their own.
 
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