Cams

[Mark.2gti16v]

Been offered a swap, my cams for some KR cams.

any gains? ect.

all info would be great

 

[orangemuffin]

I have heard a storey that a 1.8 cam does work as an upgarde but i am no expert.

 

[vngtx]

they give small gains, it makes the valves open for slightly longer.

 

[g60bron]

Standard KR Cams or Uprated????

 

[Zero]

they give small gains, it makes the valves open for slightly longer.

But ABF cams are pushing valves 1,2mm deeper than KR cams (ABF 10.8mm ; KR 9.6mm)

for example:

KR inlet cam
valve open at -3°
valve close at 35°

so 180°-3°+35°= 212° and cam pushing valve 9,6mm deep

ABF inlet cam
valve open at 1°
valve close 39°

so 180°+1°+39°= 220° and cam pushing valve 10,8mm deep

Schrick 268 inlet cam
valve open at 22°
valve close at 66°

so 180°+22°+66°= 268° an cam push valve 11,5mm deep

Mark, i hope you understand and know what will you get if KR cam open but also close valve earlier than ABF cam

 

[Chaddy74]

So if you can find a set of KR camshafts it will make a noticeable performance upgrade over the standard ABF camshafts ??

But ABF cams are pushing valves 1,2mm deeper than KR cams (ABF 10.8mm ; KR 9.6mm)

for example:

KR inlet cam
valve open at -3°
valve close at 35°

so 180°-3°+35°= 212° and cam pushing valve 9,6mm deep

ABF inlet cam
valve open at 1°
valve close 39°

so 180°+1°+39°= 220° and cam pushing valve 10,8mm deep

Schrick 268 inlet cam
valve open at 22°
valve close at 66°

so 180°+22°+66°= 268° an cam push valve 11,5mm deep

Mark, i hope you understand and know what will you get if KR cam open but also close valve earlier than ABF cam

 

[Zero]

I would never change ABF cams for KR one. For those who want power earlier i recommend: sell the valver and buy turbo or tdi

 

[orangemuffin]

Good stats zero !!!

i remember back in the day lads at school use to put the 18. sierra camms into the 2.0 cars and they used to be pretty dam quick off the line but had nothing up top..

i am taking it that the gearing would be out to ?

 

[Chaddy74]

I have decided to go with the Catcams 206 profile for now...

I would never change ABF cams for KR one. For those who want power earlier i recommend: sell the valver and buy turbo or tdi

 

[GtiBoy]

But ABF cams are pushing valves 1,2mm deeper than KR cams (ABF 10.8mm ; KR 9.6mm)

for example:

KR inlet cam
valve open at -3°
valve close at 35°

so 180°-3°+35°= 212° and cam pushing valve 9,6mm deep

ABF inlet cam
valve open at 1°
valve close 39°

so 180°+1°+39°= 220° and cam pushing valve 10,8mm deep

Schrick 268 inlet cam
valve open at 22°
valve close at 66°

so 180°+22°+66°= 268° an cam push valve 11,5mm deep

Mark, i hope you understand and know what will you get if KR cam open but also close valve earlier than ABF cam

Man knows his onions

I was thinking about cams but i fink i might just leave it now an stick with charger or 1.8T swap eventually

 

[g60bron]

I'm goin to get some cams soon for mine and make it into a wild animal

 

[Mark.2gti16v]

They where standred kr cams yes.


so dont do it ?

only reason i ask, is i no few people with golfs ect, and they all said i will get slight gains?
and my mates got an abf lump, which he is goin to put in a carado with kr cams and charge it.

 

[orangemuffin]

Dyno your car before...put the cams in....(you will have to probably change the belts)...then dyno it after...

So £50 in dynos....and then you may get little or no gain....

Spend the money on a decat my friend.

 

[Mark.2gti16v]

i would go de-cat, but the police are funny around here, and now getting new toys (sound testing equipment)..

my exhaust is already too loud, £30 fine, but i want standered back box so its hidden

 

[old 'uns]

They where standred kr cams yes.


so dont do it ?

only reason i ask, is i no few people with golfs ect, and they all said i will get slight gains?
and my mates got an abf lump, which he is goin to put in a carado with kr cams and charge it.

your mates will say they have gained, would you admit that the car was crap after changing?
as dan says, you need proof of before & after...
if your mate with the Corrado does cams & charger then it's not really a fair comparison is it?

 

[orangemuffin]

I'd just leave it mate...if it was that good then everyone would be doing it...


i dont know of anyone that has....

 

[Mark.2gti16v]

No, but i also no they wudnt be telling me ****, as they live of vw`s

Not saying it was a fair comparison, i just saying he will be dong it too.

well il keep asking about

 

[GtiBoy]

i would go de-cat, but the police are funny around here, and now getting new toys (sound testing equipment)..

my exhaust is already too loud, £30 fine, but i want standered back box so its hidden

the PO LICE

Mate there on to everythink by mine and i never got actually i ent gonna say it But unless you can get mots i wudnt bother

 

[orangemuffin]

I drove round with a decat and naughty plates for 6 months and never get pulled. Its all about how you drive.

Its amazing if you do 30 in a 30 you NEVER get pulled....

I was happy just to sit back and let people admire my car !!

 

[Mark.2gti16v]

No... you obviously havnt been to ipswich on a goodnight. lol.

they bring vosa out, and EVERYONE gets pulled