CR170 EGR fault

[dandan1989]

Hi my names Dan, I'm new to the forum. I recently bought a seat Leon on a 61 plate with the CR170 engine.

All has been well up until a few weeks ago when the glow plug light came on. Obviously this puts it into "limp" mode.

If you stop the car and turn ignition off then restart it resets and drives faultlessly again.

I had it plugged in at a local garage and it came up with the following:

EGR valve:
P0403 00 -Malfunction- intermittent

ECM power relay load circuit:
P068B 00 -opens too late- intermittent

They reset the faults and it ran fine again for nearly 3 weeks, but its now done it again.

Has anyone had this before? I gather EGR faults were more common on the older PD engines, but thought they were less troublesome on the later CR's.

Thanks Dan

 

[JoeleonFR]

Hi Dan,

It isn't common on the CR Engines to have this fault however it isn't unheard of! Long and short of it it's going to need an EGR valve. Do you have extended warranty?

Joe

 

[dandan1989]

Hi Joe, unfortunately I don't have an extended warranty.
:-(

 

[JoeleonFR]

What about service history? Any dealer history?

Joe

 

[dandan1989]

It has 2x seat stamps. And 1x indipendant.

 

[JoeleonFR]

What I'd recommend Dan is that you book in with your closest dealer, you would have to pay for the diagnostics - and ask if there is any goodwill contribution available from SEAT UK I have a feeling they would pay for a big chunk towards a replacement EGR valve.

Joe

 

[JoeleonFR]

Or dependant where you are in the country pop it into us and we will set up a case with SEAT UK and try and get you the best, economical return.

Joe

 

[dandan1989]

Thanks guys, I'm in leicestershire. I have had it plugged in at my local garage. I rang my local seat dealer today and they said its £85 for a plug in.

 

[JoeleonFR]

We would charge the same at Crewe then try & get you at least half paid for!

 

[dandan1989]

Thanks Joe, I've had it plugged in at Seat Leicester and they have confirmed that it needs an EGR.
They said that because the last service wasn't done by a seat main dealer they cant get any good will.

They want £811.81 fitted.

Is it worth calling Seat customer services and taking it up with them?

 

[JoeleonFR]

I can't see the harm in approaching SEAT UK. 0500 222 222

 

[dandan1989]

Thanks Joe, I will let you know how I get on.
The annoying thing is I'm a lorry mechanic and have no problem working on the car, but I have no diagnostic kit.

 

[JoeleonFR]

Yeah let me know! I can't see any problem with them helping you out

 

[JoeleonFR]

How did you get on Dan?

 

[dandan1989]

Hi Joe, I just had a call from them this morning.
They have managed to get some good will.

50% parts and 50% labour.
So it's £405 fitted.

Thanks Dan

 

[Fmxvxx]

That's about the best Seat customer care will ever do so not bad, I dont know why they make the EGR's such a long job Before working for Seat I used to work for vauxahall and an EGR on the 1.7 or the 1.9 used to take less than 10 mins to remove and fit.

 

[MJ]

The 1.6 and 2.0 common rail suffer terribly with egr faults. The seals leak, the rods seize and the roll pins fall out of the runner.

They are a lengthy job to replace as they are a valve and cooler assembly all in one. Not just simple valve with a vacuum pipe on. The other thing to note is their location - right on the back of the block, probably to aid the thermal dynamics of said component.

 

[dandan1989]

Does anyone know if the EGR will be exchange?
I doubt it will be.
As being a fitter I would like to have it after they have fitted the new one, so I can have a look at it.

 

[MJ]

They are not exchange but seat does request them back from time to time.

 

[cingur]

has been bookmark, this seems like a very interesting thread