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CUPRA Ibiza, will they won't they, would you?

Discussion in 'CUPRA Brand General Discussion' started by Syphon, Apr 25, 2018.

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What are your thoughts on the CUPRA Ibiza design concept?

  1. Where do I sign - I want one now!

  2. I think it's great, but I'm not in the market for one

  3. I'm potentially interested but it would depend on price, specs etc

  4. I'd need some convincing

  5. Nah, not for me

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  1. Wings988

    Wings988 Full Member

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    5 door only so I'm out, I've had 2 ibiza's and both 3 door. From what I here the Mk4 Leon will also be 5 door only so looks like my current Cupra 300 SC is my last SEAT.
     
  2. Scrogg

    Scrogg Living life only a short bus ride from the edge...

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    There's a very real possibilty you will never buy another new car again...
     
  3. Wings988

    Wings988 Full Member

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    Are BMW stopping production of the 2 series coupe? Or Mercedes-Benz the C class coupe? Not sure they are but if you know different please let me and their dealers know.
     
  4. Scrogg

    Scrogg Living life only a short bus ride from the edge...

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    If they follow the way the market is going it's a possibility, yes (that's why I used the word 'possibility')

    Granted, it's unlikely there will never be 2dr/3dr cars, but immediately dismissing a model/an entire brand, purely on the basis of number of doors means you are denying yourself access to a lot of excellent cars.
     
  5. Wings988

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    I know what you're saying and maybe I'll have to reluctantly get a 5 door hatch one day but while 2/3 doors exist they will be my preference. The reason I never had a Mk1 or 2 Leon was because it was 5 door only, they make a 3 door mk3 and I've had 2 Cupra's brand new. I realise that I'm most definitely in the minority though. The new Fiesta ST has 3 door and the highly rated 208GTi by PS. I don't need 5 doors, I prefer the style of 3 door and as I'm fairly tall I find sitting in 5 door cars the b pillar obscures my side view more than a 3 door as they have longer front doors.
    Remember people don't always make decisions you will agree with, I'm happy to discount some very good cars just because they're 5 door.
     
  6. '& Son' managed

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    I for another mourn the slow death of stronger/lighter 3-door hatches, even though I won't be in the market for
    one for a while. I'm also been at odds for many years now in usually preferring saloon versions over hatchbacks.

    In the end, car makers will build what sells, which in turn is what they choose to promote most actively. Sadly
    this means more jacked-up small hatches and SUV's/fake 4x4's mostly with iffy bodykits and detailing.

    Can't blame them though, they are in business to try and sell what they can for as much profit as possible and
    more than a few people's jobs depend on it.
     
  7. Stagsfell

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    Looking at the new Fiesta ST, Polo GTI, new Audi A1 and the Cupra Ibiza for next time round. Ibiza looks a bit more interesting than the VW (which I've yet to drive as I 'm waiting for the manual to appear). From what I've seen so far though it's looking as if the Ibiza and A1 2.0 tfsi may be DSG only in which case it will be a 2 horse race (or a total re-think!).

    Like others have said, I'm not enamoured with the logo or the copper theme. At least with Abarth, Fiat have resurrected a once familiar name. Citroen have recently introduced DS (previously used as a model name) as a separate brand to a less than rapturous reception so far.
     
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  8. Wings988

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    Exactly this. I often have to tell people my car is a Leon, they see SEAT Cupra and ask what's that? Most folk don't even know about the Cupra brand it has no history or pedigree and a very small following. Ford launched the mk3 Focus RS and I've seen more of them around my area than Leon Cupra.
    If anything, going down the Cupra route with a tribal badge that went out of fashion for tattoos in the 90s and a bronze colour (what does anyone own that is bronze coloured? Maybe an ancient statue) is going to put more people off.If they put prices up they'll lose even more sales as the brand has no value to justify it.
    They need to understand the demographic who buys the Cupra now. I can only comment on the uk market and imo folk under 21 will find it seriously expensive to insure a Cupra, what majority age group on here have them? The fact that they have decided to only do 5 door would make me believe they are aiming at the older market who have a family and need 5 doors. Those folk are possibly not going to like the dated tribal badge, and bronze details, I've got nothing in my house coloured bronze because it's just not that great.
    I like SEAT and hope they do well but the price ceiling will always be there, Cupra or not as VW has a scene, so do Ford RS. SEAT need to try to emulate Renault Sport, Honda Type R and win customers by offering an excellent driving experience. Honda and Renault have a following grown over several years. Changing a badge and hoping won't work imo. Only time will tell.
     

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