Cupra vs Cupra R(+suggestions)

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Greetings, I was not able to find too much info about this on Google so I am posting here. I saw some threads about similar topics buy in them, only mentions are about the exterior. So I am wondering, if anyone knows, what are the engine differences on Cupra MK2 and on Cupra R MK2? I thought that it is just more boost and timing, but now I found out that Revo Stage 1 for Cupra offers around 300hp, while for Cupra R, Stage 1 is 315-320hp. Also, I have full stock Cupra, do you recommend Revo map or some other custom map? One official Revo dealer/mechanic shop offers custom map,290ish hp for 400 euros or Revo Stage 1 with 300-315hp and switcher that can switch from Stock and Revo for 600 euros. What do you guys recommend. I am already pretty happy with the car, it has great fuel economy and is fast enough for me, but I heard that after remap, you get even better fuel economy if you drive normally,and of course you get extra grunt through the rev range. Thanks for your help in advance.
 

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I'd guess just a little more boost as the Cupra leaves the factory with 240bhp and the R 265bhp. But both have the same engine (facelift anyway) and map up to the same 300bhp(ISH). But mostly cosmetic, leather stitched seats, 19" wheels (Vs 18) and R branding on eg Speedo, front and rear bumper.

I've got Revo Stage 2+. It's fast, but quite a safe map. I reckon a custom map would get me another 20bhp and 50lbs of torque. But do I really want to stress the engine to its limits? But really depends. Revo is a safe option. But if you have really good local mappers for fancy trying. Do that.
 
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I'd guess just a little more boost as the Cupra leaves the factory with 240bhp and the R 265bhp. But both have the same engine (facelift anyway) and map up to the same 300bhp(ISH). But mostly cosmetic, leather stitched seats, 19" wheels (Vs 18) and R branding on eg Speedo, front and rear bumper.

I've got Revo Stage 2+. It's fast, but quite a safe map. I reckon a custom map would get me another 20bhp and 50lbs of torque. But do I really want to stress the engine to its limits? But really depends. Revo is a safe option. But if you have really good local mappers for fancy trying. Do that.
I think Stage 1 would be plenty for me since I don't plan to add anything special like S3 injectors or aftermarket HPFP onto the car in the near future, maybe an intake or an exhaust but I really like how the car is almost completely silent while driving. This is the first car in which I have to look at the tacho when I do hard pulls since the car is very silent and so I cannot figure out at what revs I currently am, all the way until 5500-6000rpm, which I like for now. Did stage 2+ affect your fuel economy and daily driving,, I mean does the turbo kick in later?
 

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Stage 1 is plenty and well worth it. It'll completely transform the car for you. 2+ is a bit aggressive. I love that it pulls all through the rev range. But we've had storms all day today and all I could do is spin the wheels.

I think the peak torque is about the same rpm give or take. I get 33mpg motorway. 18-22mpg around town.
 
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Thanks for the replies. Does anyone know is the boost of stock cupra 1.0 or 1.2 bars? Also how much boost does revo stage 1 add?
 

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There was a guide somewhere I can't seem to place at the moment. The closest I can find at the moment is:
"R-Tech stage 1 tuning will tend to see around 1.3 – 1.4bar boost ranges depending on the exact setups and tuning manner".
 
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I contacted one car electronics firm nearby and asked them do they do any remaps, and they have been offered +40hp custom remap for about 100 pounds, stating that it is a real custom map, so I bring them the car, they download the ecu map and after a few days I return them the car to put on the new map and that they don't go "all in" with the power like some popular tuners. Sounds good?
 

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Tnx for the link, so boost is only 0.85 bar? lol

There's a bit of a typo on stock - it says 01. I assume they mean peak stock boost is 1.0bar which makes more sense.
 
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There's a bit of a typo on stock - it says 01. I assume they mean peak stock boost is 1.0bar which makes more sense.
Yep I see, but it says it gives constant 0.85 while 1.0 is just when you floor it from 2200rpm?