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Difference between FR,T and Cupra Engines?

Discussion in 'Ibiza Mk4 (2002-2008)' started by ant61uk, Apr 1, 2012.

  1. ant61uk

    ant61uk Active Member

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    Hi, looking at buying a 57 plate ibiza fr, and was just wondering if it is the same engine as the Cupra?

    I know the ECU will need a different MAP but is the engine the same lump?

    Also, If a buy the 150Bhp FR, what can it be tuned to with a REmap alone?

    Thanks
     
  2. krussel

    krussel Active Member

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    Had loads of questions like this between the FR and Cupra. A search will bring all the information you need ;)

    To start with the Cupra has a bigger turbo but is a fair bit up from Ins group 8 on the FR.

    Its not all about the engine power though as the Cupra has much better brakes and a even harder suspention to deal with.
     
  3. R1ch85

    R1ch85 1/4mile - 13.935 @ 100.54

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    No, the turbos are the same. A Cupra has a larger air intake pipe, a large front mount intercooler compared to the side mount on the FR, and a different map of course. There may be other things but they have the same turbo for sure.
     
  4. Cos

    Cos 20VT, bitches!

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    Best off getting a pre-modified FR. Fortunately, I have a lovely one for sale!
     
  5. vroomtshh

    vroomtshh Full Member

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    Suspension is also the exact same between fr and cupra. Basically the intake and intercooler are the only difference. An fr will map to 190-200ish
     
  6. rf860

    rf860 Active Member

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    Suspension is different i thought? Apparently the cupra had stiffer shocks and softer springs in comparisson to the FR (hence the even more horrific ride quality lol)
     
  7. vroomtshh

    vroomtshh Full Member

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    Not from what I know. They have the same part nos. and the shocks are definitely the same rate.
     
  8. Nath.

    Nath. The Gentlemans Express

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    The Cupra deffo has stiffer and slightly lower suspension. The shocks (dampers) are probably the same but the springs are different.
     
  9. xSCYTHERx

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    Got mine remapped to just over 190BHP the other day. Only cost me £100 more on insurance which is a hell of a lot cheaper than me trying to insure a cupra compared to the FR.....
     
  10. Cos

    Cos 20VT, bitches!

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    You told your insurance about the remap...?
     
  11. ayacoub92

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    I've got a 57 plate FR and I was also wondering how much a remap with everything standard would take it to?
     
  12. xSCYTHERx

    xSCYTHERx Active Member

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    Yeah because thats the legal thing to do....

    Already been stated in this post - between 190-200 bhp.
     
  13. .Phase

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    I got 205bhp out of mine, but it was very cold :D
     
  14. andypandypoos

    andypandypoos Rodeo Monkey

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    would they be charging more if they didn't know about the map...?
     
  15. ant61uk

    ant61uk Active Member

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    Bought the FR T

    Ok, well ive bought a new toy, seat ibiza fr 57 plate, november 2007 1.8t, 39k miles (Crash Damaged) for 2k.

    Went to look at it and needs a few panels, but should be a good weekend project.:whistle:

    It has however got a smashed side intercooler ....:help:

    Should I replace with a standard side fit or can a cupra intercooler be fitted directly on?

    Does any one have any other recommendations?

    Basically, im wainting to achieve about 210 bhp so if I have to replace some parts now, might as well buy the right ones.

    Thanks
     
  16. .Phase

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    sounds great, 2k is a bargain! hopefully no hidden problems and literally only the panels!

    yeah a cupra intercooler can be put on with 2 small cuts made to the inside of the bumper, there's loads of FAQs on it if you search, that will help increase bhp, although figures aren't everything
     
  17. J44APX

    J44APX No Smoke - No Poke

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    Not that yellow one off eBay by anychance ?

    :think:
     
  18. ant61uk

    ant61uk Active Member

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    Yea, the Yellow FR, Its paid for and I get possession tomorrow hopefully... ;)

    Does any one know what the part number is for a cupra intercooler?
     
  19. J44APX

    J44APX No Smoke - No Poke

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    Haha i was close to buying this to track it
    Already been relisted once
    Doesnt look like it needs to much work really

    Anyway i will get off your thread now haha
    Hope you enjoy it !!!
    :p
     

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