Difference between FR,T and Cupra Engines?

ant61uk

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Sep 6, 2011
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Hi, looking at buying a 57 plate ibiza fr, and was just wondering if it is the same engine as the Cupra?

I know the ECU will need a different MAP but is the engine the same lump?

Also, If a buy the 150Bhp FR, what can it be tuned to with a REmap alone?

Thanks
 

krussel

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Oct 31, 2008
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Had loads of questions like this between the FR and Cupra. A search will bring all the information you need ;)

To start with the Cupra has a bigger turbo but is a fair bit up from Ins group 8 on the FR.

Its not all about the engine power though as the Cupra has much better brakes and a even harder suspention to deal with.
 

R1ch85

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No, the turbos are the same. A Cupra has a larger air intake pipe, a large front mount intercooler compared to the side mount on the FR, and a different map of course. There may be other things but they have the same turbo for sure.
 

rf860

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Jan 23, 2010
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Suspension is also the exact same between fr and cupra. Basically the intake and intercooler are the only difference. An fr will map to 190-200ish

Suspension is different i thought? Apparently the cupra had stiffer shocks and softer springs in comparisson to the FR (hence the even more horrific ride quality lol)
 

xSCYTHERx

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Jul 29, 2011
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Hi, looking at buying a 57 plate ibiza fr, and was just wondering if it is the same engine as the Cupra?

I know the ECU will need a different MAP but is the engine the same lump?

Also, If a buy the 150Bhp FR, what can it be tuned to with a REmap alone?

Thanks

Got mine remapped to just over 190BHP the other day. Only cost me £100 more on insurance which is a hell of a lot cheaper than me trying to insure a cupra compared to the FR.....
 

ant61uk

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Sep 6, 2011
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Keighley, West Yorkshire
Bought the FR T

Ok, well ive bought a new toy, seat ibiza fr 57 plate, november 2007 1.8t, 39k miles (Crash Damaged) for 2k.

Went to look at it and needs a few panels, but should be a good weekend project.:whistle:

It has however got a smashed side intercooler ....:help:

Should I replace with a standard side fit or can a cupra intercooler be fitted directly on?

Does any one have any other recommendations?

Basically, im wainting to achieve about 210 bhp so if I have to replace some parts now, might as well buy the right ones.

Thanks
 
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sounds great, 2k is a bargain! hopefully no hidden problems and literally only the panels!

yeah a cupra intercooler can be put on with 2 small cuts made to the inside of the bumper, there's loads of FAQs on it if you search, that will help increase bhp, although figures aren't everything
 

J44APX

No Smoke - No Poke
Oct 31, 2011
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Boston
Yea, the Yellow FR, Its paid for and I get possession tomorrow hopefully... ;)

Does any one know what the part number is for a cupra intercooler?

Haha i was close to buying this to track it
Already been relisted once
Doesnt look like it needs to much work really

Anyway i will get off your thread now haha
Hope you enjoy it !!!
:p
 
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