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  1. Cynthia

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    I have retrofitted an electric tailgate to my Ateca using all new SEAT parts. I didn't realise the ECU has to be perameterised. SEAT refuse to do it and I can't find a company who are willing to try. Anybody any ideas on how this can be done?
     
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    I'll have a look at my parameters if we're not at cross purposes and post them up. We know how to turn the beep off I know that, someone else did that but I keep mine on so it doesn't wack me.

    That's in this thread, post 8:

    https://forums.seatcupra.net/index....f-activity-working-ones-for-the-ateca.438134/

    That's the foot wiggle and closing control sound.

    I'd have to go live to see what else was there. Afraid it would be Obdeleven but is mappable if we are talking about that control unit and not something else. 6D Deck Lid.

    Nose around in this Google in the meantime:

    https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=6d+deck+lid&oq=6d+deck+lid&aqs=heirloom-srp..

    Mind you, you might have reached my limit of understanding if we aren't talking about what's in 6D.
     
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    Thank you for your reply.
    I have coded the unit via VCDS but it is the firmware on the ECU which is missing on a new unit. Garages can code these through ODIS if the VIN shows the car to have an electric tailgate but as mine does not show this SEAT refuse to allow it to be coded.
    Is there a workround for this?
     
  4. Tell

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    It sounds as if it's only ODIS only then it's controlled by Seat but if they say ODIS as their advanced VCDS tool then not. I thought the basic programming was in all the cars and it was just a question of configuring the subsystems to hook into it.

    I will later post up my values of the 6D unit just in case they are different to yours. Seat did have to reprogram mine since the original build ones in 2016 for a three week period had a production unit issue on the control unit with the foot waggle side, the rest worked on the release button of the lid. Is yours both the tailgate and virtual pedal ?. They had to call in the cars with these units to change them.

    The people who modded my navigation plus unit to make it into retrofit have access to ODIS. Might be worth a try if you draw a blank but it does get a bit Jolly Rogers...(the Croydon people) they didnt leave me on a deserted island thou with the work they did for me. .
     
  5. I have not looked recently but you could buy odis with relevant autorization codes attached but for limited time use
     
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    I saw those screens in Erwin which I reckon is where that is. Didn't take that any further myself. Happy with Obdeleven on that one and access just to Erwin for the manuals, SSPs and build codes.

    Did that ECU thing make sense ? Or is it that the dealer won't fully program the car if it's not factory fitted. Wondered whether you had to also go into say the Gateway and Electrical system side to enable it as well ?. Some of them splatter across other control units.
     
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    Here's my full address map from Obdeleven, it may help:

    OBDeleven data log

    Date: 2019-08-29 20:22

    VIN: xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Car: Seat Ateca
    Year: 2017
    Body type: SUV
    Engine: DFHA 140 kW (190 HP) 2.0 l
    Mileage: 30928 KM

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    01 Engine

    System description: R4 2.0l TDI
    Software number: 04L906026NQ
    Software version: 3614
    Hardware number: 04L907309P
    Hardware version: H24
    ODX name: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906026NQ
    ODX version: 004001
    Long coding: 01250032036605083000

    Trouble codes:
    No trouble codes found

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    02 Transmission

    System description: GSG DQ381
    Software number: 0GC300011S
    Software version: 0606
    Hardware number: 0DE927711C
    Hardware version: H12
    ODX name: EV_TCMDQ381061
    ODX version: 001���
    Long coding: 0014

    Trouble codes:
    No trouble codes found

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    03 Brakes

    System description: ESC
    Software number: 5Q0614517BH
    Software version: 0507
    Hardware number: 5Q0614517AD
    Hardware version: H25
    Serial number: 62316000000471
    ODX name: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB
    ODX version: 035019
    Long coding: 22EE8A9234210C6F8779770941CA2944512C30E1EE82947D38625074E6A303

    Trouble codes:
    No trouble codes found

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    08 Air Conditioning

    System description: Climatronic
    Software number: 5F0907044AE
    Software version: 1601
    Hardware number: 5F0907044AE
    Hardware version: H05
    ODX name: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X
    ODX version: 006142
    Long coding: 02100124200110011105004100101020

    Trouble codes:
    No trouble codes found

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    09 Central Electrics

    System description: BCM MQBAB H
    Software number: 5Q0937084CG
    Software version: 0236
    Hardware number: 5Q0937084CG
    Hardware version: H34
    Serial number: 02001624700901
    ODX name: EV_BCMMQB
    ODX version: 017001
    Long coding: 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

    Subsystems:
    System description: RLHS
    Software version: 0105
    Hardware version: 042
    Serial number: S2Y16M09D12H01M04S29
    Long coding: 00996E

    System description: Sensor, DWA
    Software version: 0316
    Hardware version: 005
    Serial number: 000000000ZY162182GKH

    System description: Sirene, DWA
    Software version: 0313
    Hardware version: 005
    Serial number: 00000000000036279974

    Trouble codes:
    No trouble codes found

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    13 Adaptive Cruise Control

    System description: ACCCONTIMQB
    Software number: 2Q0907572J
    Software version: 0156
    Hardware number: 2Q0907572B
    Hardware version: H01
    ODX name: EV_ACCMRRCONTIVW376
    ODX version: 001011
    Long coding: 320047C354FF8728749C8065804081

    Trouble codes:
    No trouble codes found

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    15 Airbag

    System description: Airbag VW21
    Software number: 3Q0959655AK
    Software version: 0305
    Hardware number: 3Q0959655AK
    Hardware version: 004
    Serial number: 003R6PHGDZ3G
    ODX name: EV_AirbaVW21TS6VW48X
    ODX version: 001010
    Long coding: 98CCC0C0000000005C5400CC008800000065

    Subsystems:
    System description: SideSensor_Df
    Software version: 0887
    Hardware version: 008
    Serial number: 357000000007F8952D1W
    Long coding: 2D2D2D

    System description: SideSensor_Pf
    Software version: 0887
    Hardware version: 008
    Serial number: 35800000000FE5852D1-
    Long coding: 2D2D2D

    System description: SideSensor_Dr
    Software version: 0148
    Hardware version: 301
    Serial number: 351006243920C0000004
    Long coding: 2D2D2D

    System description: SideSensor_Pr
    Software version: 0148
    Hardware version: 301
    Serial number: 352006124910C0000002
    Long coding: 2D2D2D

    System description: FrontSensor_D
    Software version: 0149
    Hardware version: 304
    Serial number: 35500D5D7E60B000000$
    Long coding: 2D2D2D

    Trouble codes:
    No trouble codes found

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    16 Steering Column Electronics

    System description: Lenks.Modul
    Software number: 3Q0953521EE
    Software version: 0235
    Hardware number: 5Q0953569A
    Hardware version: 075
    Serial number: 20160905501100
    ODX name: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB
    ODX version: 001015
    Long coding: 6C14

    Trouble codes:
    No trouble codes found

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    17 Dash Board

    System description: KOMBI
    Software number: 5F0920951D
    Software version: 8311
    Hardware number: 5F0920951D
    Hardware version: 306
    ODX name: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB
    ODX version: 009051
    Long coding: 27A4201AEF8C260001887A0B1001000000000000

    Trouble codes:
    No trouble codes found

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    19 Gateway

    System description: GW MQB High
    Software number: 5Q0907530AM
    Software version: 2265
    Hardware number: 5Q0907530M
    Hardware version: 212
    Serial number: 08091610801254
    ODX name: EV_GatewConti
    ODX version: 013020
    Long coding: 030500F40F086A00EB0022581E0F00010001050000000000000000000000

    Subsystems:
    System description: J367-BDMConti
    Software version: 1050
    Hardware version: H03
    Serial number: 75410803001609064293

    System description: E221__MFL-PR6
    Software version: 0130
    Hardware version: H04
    Serial number: 000000000A1453050716
    Long coding: 012000

    System description: E881 BedieFPA
    Software version: 0430
    Hardware version: 001
    Serial number: 000000091171PI1000FK
    Long coding: 464553

    Trouble codes:
    No trouble codes found

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    22 All Wheel Control

    System description: Haldex4Motion
    Software number: 0CQ907554H
    Software version: 7083
    Hardware number: 0CQ525130
    Hardware version: H52
    Serial number: HA1-00001.08.1600010027
    ODX name: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X
    ODX version: 004013
    Long coding: 0001

    Trouble codes:
    No trouble codes found

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
     
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    Cont...

    2B Steering Column Locking

    System description: ELV-MQBB
    Software number: 3Q0905861
    Software version: 0032
    Hardware number: 3Q0905861
    Hardware version: H05
    Serial number: 16000201444016
    ODX name: EV_ELVMarquMQBB
    ODX version: 001007
    Long coding: 0800000000000000

    Trouble codes:
    No trouble codes found

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    3C Lane Change Assistant

    System description: HRE_Master
    Software number: 5Q0907686B
    Software version: 0071
    Hardware number: 5Q0907686B
    Hardware version: H12
    Serial number: 0416212620
    ODX name: EV_HREntryHella
    ODX version: 001028
    Long coding: 02011203

    Trouble codes:
    No trouble codes found

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    42 Door Electronics Driver Side

    System description: TSG FS
    Software number: 5Q4959593E
    Software version: 0032
    Hardware number: 5Q4959593B
    Hardware version: 010
    Serial number: 0000217544389
    ODX name: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT
    ODX version: 006001
    Long coding: 00311220D001040000001000

    Subsystems:
    System description: FOND_FHSG_DRV
    Software version: 0005
    Hardware version: 005
    Serial number: 00000000000011457769
    Long coding: 3D0000

    Trouble codes:
    No trouble codes found

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    44 Steering Assistance

    System description: EPS_MQB_ZFLS
    Software number: 5Q0909144T
    Software version: 1072
    Hardware number: 5Q0909144R
    Hardware version: 128
    ODX name: EV_SteerAssisMQB
    ODX version: 013144
    Long coding: 9307

    Trouble codes:
    No trouble codes found

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    52 Door Electronics Passenger Side

    System description: TSG BFS
    Software number: 5Q4959592E
    Software version: 0031
    Hardware number: 5Q4959592B
    Hardware version: 010
    Serial number: 0000213677820
    ODX name: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT
    ODX version: 006001
    Long coding: 00311220DC01040000001000

    Subsystems:
    System description: FOND_FHSG_PSG
    Software version: 0005
    Hardware version: 005
    Serial number: 00000000000011477895
    Long coding: 250000

    Trouble codes:
    No trouble codes found

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    55 Headlight Regulation

    System description: LWR-ECU
    Software number: 5Q0907357
    Software version: 0080
    Hardware number: 6R0907357A
    Hardware version: 005
    Serial number: --------------
    ODX name: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRMQB
    ODX version: 001110
    Long coding: 06AE000009000000

    Trouble codes:
    No trouble codes found

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    6C Camera System Rear View

    System description: Areaview 2
    Software number: 5Q0907556B
    Software version: 0607
    Hardware number: 5Q0907556
    Hardware version: H13
    Serial number: C854707JG0018515
    ODX name: EV_CamSysRVAV2ARCE2MQBAB
    ODX version: 006017
    Long coding: 06230601260FA00000606094

    Trouble codes:
    No trouble codes found

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    6D Deck Lid Control Unit

    System description: HDSG-Modul
    Software number: 5Q0959107J
    Software version: 0253
    Hardware number: 5Q0959107J
    Hardware version: H13
    Serial number: 30914708600000
    ODX name: EV_DeckLidCONTIAU736
    ODX version: 001012
    Long coding: 1908

    Trouble codes:
    No trouble codes found

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    76 Parking Assistance

    System description: PLA 3.0 12K��
    Software number: 5QA919298
    Software version: 0161
    Hardware number: 5Q0919298C
    Hardware version: H08
    Serial number: 00030518361623801938
    ODX name: EV_EPHVA2CAU3700000
    ODX version: 009017
    Long coding: 0371267051

    Trouble codes:
    No trouble codes found

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    A5 Front Sensors Driver Assistance System

    System description: MQB_B_MFK
    Software number: 3Q0980654F
    Software version: 0220
    Hardware number: 3Q0980654
    Hardware version: H06
    Serial number: 29081611P12467
    ODX name: EV_MFKBoschMQBB
    ODX version: 001001
    Long coding: 030307060000040000022354C050A10098000E200020

    Trouble codes:
    No trouble codes found

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    B7 Access Startsystem Interface

    System description: VWKESSYMQB
    Software number: 3Q0959435E
    Software version: 0811
    Hardware number: 3Q0959435E
    Hardware version: 036
    Serial number: 0415658529
    ODX name: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB
    ODX version: 004039
    Long coding: 032C0C0F03

    Trouble codes:
    No trouble codes found

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    CA Sunroof

    System description: SAD_STG_1
    Software number: 4M0907594J
    Software version: 0005
    Hardware number: 4M0907594
    Hardware version: 013
    ODX name: EV_SunRoofCONTIAU736
    ODX version: 006008
    Long coding: 508040532602

    Trouble codes:
    No trouble codes found

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    5F Information Control Unit

    System description: MU-H-ND-EU
    Software number: 5F0035020G
    Software version: 1338
    Hardware number: 5F0035020
    Hardware version: H50
    Serial number: A678H0G7506054
    ODX name: EV_MUHig6C3Gen2HBAS
    ODX version: 001001
    Long coding: 04230601FF0A000011111101008808002F0100C6012001009E

    Trouble codes:
    No trouble codes found
     
  9. Cynthia

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    Thanks for all the useful information. I will try and use the 6D coding you sent but it won't be until next week.
    I'll let you know how it went.
     
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    The 6D coding is as factory with the virtual pedal sensor. Never changed those codes.

    The Obdeleven does break down the long string into its component parts on assorted adaptation screens. Quite a few. If you are happy with the long code for 6D, I'll leave it at that. If say you are fitting just the motor arm but not the foot pedal no doubt the long string would be different. I'd have to go throu the assorted screens. That's assuming your 6D part number tallies.

    As I said before whether the coding spills out into other systems I'd have to do other Google's and read up. That's why I gave you my full address map.
     
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    Still cannot get the tailgate to work. The ECU needs an ODIS code attached to the VIN which SEAT refuse to do. Took it to HazzyDayz still no luck. It needs an ECU from an Ateca with an electric tailgate. No scrapyard seems to have one.
     
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    Have you tried Vagtec in Croydon. They might have way and means to do things. Whoever needs Odis.
     

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