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Discussion in 'Leon Mk3 (2012-2020)' started by BenH1993, Aug 22, 2019.

  1. HighFlyingBird

    HighFlyingBird '16 FR 1.4 150

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    Makes sense that the gearbox should be mapped to cope with the extra power, my car has the 7 speed DSG though which doesn't have launch control so none of that would work for me, I'd only really benefit from the RPM changes. I don't plan on mapping the car until the warranty is out anyway, so another 4 years to go.
     
  2. Sorry my post was me as usual only thinking about my Cupra.

    If you look at the Revo site they appear to only do the DSG map For the 1.8 and 2.0 petrol cars,
    Other mapping companies however may offer this service to the DQ200 Box.

    I don't know why but can only presume that is because these engines can produce a lot more power with a map and need the gearbox upgrades to match it well.
     
  3. Dominic

    Dominic Active Member

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    As I understand it from doing some reading, the diesels, in particular, make enough torque as standard that they're close to the limit of the standard DSG programming, a remap will boost it plenty but the box will try and reign it in. Get the box mapped and it'll let you have all the torque, all the time.

    I'm going to book my 184 in for both an engine and DSG map as my local tuner does the DSG map cheaper of it's done together.
     
  4. HighFlyingBird

    HighFlyingBird '16 FR 1.4 150

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    Might not be as commonly available as maps for the 1.8 and 2.0 cars because the 1.4s and below don't make enough power to push the gearbox close to it's limits even when the engines are mapped. I'm not a mechanic or anything though so who knows.
     
  5. Also the 7 speed dq200 was not designed to handle bigger power, it had a troubled start in life but they seem to have fixed it now.
     
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  6. Dominic

    Dominic Active Member

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    He'd have the 6 speed DQ250 though wouldn't he?

    As I understand the 7 speed DQ200 is a dry clutch box and can't handle too much power, is fitted to the lower powered cars.
     
  7. HighFlyingBird

    HighFlyingBird '16 FR 1.4 150

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    Seems like it's more for emissions/economy than the 6 speed one is

    Nope it's the 7-speed box in the 1.4 ACT engines, 150bhp doesn't seem too underpowered compared to the 1.2s and new 1.0s though. From what I can gather VAG cars with DSG boxes come in 3 versions, wet clutch 6-speed, dry clutch 6-speed and dry clutch 7-speed.
     
  8. Dominic

    Dominic Active Member

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    There's too many bloody variants of these gearboxes.

    I thought for the normal range cars it was:
    6spd Wet Clutch - High Torque Capacity
    7spd Dry Clutch - Low Torque and High Toque variants.


    How can you tell which cars have which gearboxes? I thought the DQ200 7 speed was fitted to the 1.8 and under petrols since they make maximum of 250nm.
     
    #28 Dominic, Aug 25, 2019
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  9. DQ200 Is the gearbox used on the smaller engined cars.

    DQ250 Is what the Pre Facelift and Facelift cars (bigger engines) had before the WLTP Changes.

    Cant recall which version the new WLTP (Bigger Engines) have but its a 7 speed version.

    Screenshot 2019-08-25 at 22.01.10.png
     
  10. Kirky

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    I think we have the DQ381 fitted in the WLTP cars. The 7 speed wet clutch DSG, the DQ500s little brother.
     
  11. HighFlyingBird

    HighFlyingBird '16 FR 1.4 150

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    Mine definitely has the DQ200, does anyone know what changed with the DQ200E? If the DQ200 had a troubled start is the E the one with all the revisions fitted?
     
  12. Dominic

    Dominic Active Member

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    Might be the one fitted to the GTE?
     
  13. HighFlyingBird

    HighFlyingBird '16 FR 1.4 150

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    Forgot the GTE was a thing, so might be for that then
     

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