Exhaust decibel cameras

Gokiwi64

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By 2026 my LCR will be nearly 22 years old, Im not sure how it could be kept compliant , I highly doubt you will get OEM parts for it by then.
 

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Well first thing to say is this rule only seems to apply to new cars (hence all the moans from new owners about how quiet the car is)

Secondly it says it is illegal to modify the exhaust system of a vehicle to make it noisier than the level recorded for that model at type approval. so as we have old cars not a problem but does this mean all the guys with the shiny new Cupra's and upgraded exhaust are now breaking the law....

@Legojon have you tried doing a noise test with a phone app, I did mine and it came in fairly close to what they picked up on a track day check.
 

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Secondly it says it is illegal to modify the exhaust system of a vehicle to make it noisier than the level recorded for that model at type approval. so as we have old cars not a problem but does this mean all the guys with the shiny new Cupra's and upgraded exhaust are now breaking the law....

@Legojon have you tried doing a noise test with a phone app, I did mine and it came in fairly close to what they picked up on a track day check.

That's what I wondered.

Oooo, I might get someone to stand at the side of the road. Although my parents are ancient and near deaf and they can hear my car from about 0.5 miles away.
 

Action Man

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Rules are a bit different for bikes ,,,which is mainly where my experiance is, cos cars have never been as loud as bikes...

Anyhow...bit of info ramble

1934. Speed limits introduced.
1935. Cats eyes introduced.
1947. First Honda Produced.
1949. First Kawasaki Produced.
1950. First Ducati's produced.
1952. First Suzuki produced
1954. First Yamaha produced.
1968. First Aprilia produced.
1970. 86 decibel noise limit introduced for motorcycles larger than 125cc (not implemented until 1982)
1971. Motorcycles first used after 1/1/71 required to be equipped with dipped beam headlight
1971. All motorcycle riders required to have passenger insurance
1973. Wearing of crash helmets made compulsory for all motorcycle riders
1975. Requirement for motorcycles to carry a front number plate abolished.
1980. Right hand sidecars banned on motorcycles registered after 1/8/81
1982. EEC 86 decibel noise limit implemented.
1986. Motorcycles first used after 1/4/86 required to have direction indicators.
1987. EC 87/56 stage one (82 decibel) noise limit becomes Euro law. Stage 2 (80 decibels) planned for 1993.
1987. Motorcycles first used after 1/4/87 to have brake system approved by UN/ECE regulation 13.05
1987. BSI stamped aftermarket exhausts made compulsory.
1991. EC proposes 100 bhp maximum power output from motorcycles.
1993. EU proposes 'Multi Directive'. Contains 80 decibel upper noise limit, anti tampering and emission limits.
1994. 100th Gatso Camera installed.
1995. UK implements stage one of EU directive 87/56 and reduces maximum noise limit to 82 decibels
1997. EU Multi Directive becomes European law. Maximum noise limit set at 80 decibels. Europe wide implementation July 1999.
2001. Motorcycles registered after 1.9.2001 are not allowed to have a front number plate.
 

Seastormer

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Rules are a bit different for bikes ,,,which is mainly where my experiance is, cos cars have never been as loud as bikes...

Anyhow...bit of info ramble

1934. Speed limits introduced.
1935. Cats eyes introduced.
1947. First Honda Produced.
1949. First Kawasaki Produced.
1950. First Ducati's produced.
1952. First Suzuki produced
1954. First Yamaha produced.
1968. First Aprilia produced.
1970. 86 decibel noise limit introduced for motorcycles larger than 125cc (not implemented until 1982)
1971. Motorcycles first used after 1/1/71 required to be equipped with dipped beam headlight
1971. All motorcycle riders required to have passenger insurance
1973. Wearing of crash helmets made compulsory for all motorcycle riders
1975. Requirement for motorcycles to carry a front number plate abolished.
1980. Right hand sidecars banned on motorcycles registered after 1/8/81
1982. EEC 86 decibel noise limit implemented.
1986. Motorcycles first used after 1/4/86 required to have direction indicators.
1987. EC 87/56 stage one (82 decibel) noise limit becomes Euro law. Stage 2 (80 decibels) planned for 1993.
1987. Motorcycles first used after 1/4/87 to have brake system approved by UN/ECE regulation 13.05
1987. BSI stamped aftermarket exhausts made compulsory.
1991. EC proposes 100 bhp maximum power output from motorcycles.
1993. EU proposes 'Multi Directive'. Contains 80 decibel upper noise limit, anti tampering and emission limits.
1994. 100th Gatso Camera installed.
1995. UK implements stage one of EU directive 87/56 and reduces maximum noise limit to 82 decibels
1997. EU Multi Directive becomes European law. Maximum noise limit set at 80 decibels. Europe wide implementation July 1999.
2001. Motorcycles registered after 1.9.2001 are not allowed to have a front number plate.
Very interesting that, I first got into bikes in 1977 with a Kwacker KE 125 trail bike, happy days.
 

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Rules are a bit different for bikes ,,,which is mainly where my experiance is, cos cars have never been as loud as bikes...

Anyhow...bit of info ramble

1934. Speed limits introduced.
1935. Cats eyes introduced.
1947. First Honda Produced.
1949. First Kawasaki Produced.
1950. First Ducati's produced.
1952. First Suzuki produced
1954. First Yamaha produced.
1968. First Aprilia produced.
1970. 86 decibel noise limit introduced for motorcycles larger than 125cc (not implemented until 1982)
1971. Motorcycles first used after 1/1/71 required to be equipped with dipped beam headlight
1971. All motorcycle riders required to have passenger insurance
1973. Wearing of crash helmets made compulsory for all motorcycle riders
1975. Requirement for motorcycles to carry a front number plate abolished.
1980. Right hand sidecars banned on motorcycles registered after 1/8/81
1982. EEC 86 decibel noise limit implemented.
1986. Motorcycles first used after 1/4/86 required to have direction indicators.
1987. EC 87/56 stage one (82 decibel) noise limit becomes Euro law. Stage 2 (80 decibels) planned for 1993.
1987. Motorcycles first used after 1/4/87 to have brake system approved by UN/ECE regulation 13.05
1987. BSI stamped aftermarket exhausts made compulsory.
1991. EC proposes 100 bhp maximum power output from motorcycles.
1993. EU proposes 'Multi Directive'. Contains 80 decibel upper noise limit, anti tampering and emission limits.
1994. 100th Gatso Camera installed.
1995. UK implements stage one of EU directive 87/56 and reduces maximum noise limit to 82 decibels
1997. EU Multi Directive becomes European law. Maximum noise limit set at 80 decibels. Europe wide implementation July 1999.
2001. Motorcycles registered after 1.9.2001 are not allowed to have a front number plate.

And just so you know you should have enough post's to the for sale section now if you want to use it.
 

Action Man

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Seastormer....umm mebe wierd but you pick the same model car and are into bike :cheers:

Don't want to divert the thread but bikes are a big part of my time... I to got on the road in 1977.... but I started Scrambling in 72.... which is the old word for moto-X for you yung-uns :blahblah:
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Action Man

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Oh and theoldboy ..... errr nope it still says I am insufficient ....er nowt new there then :redface:
 

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yep already seen that and replied as soon as the Admins have fixed it I will let you know.
 

Seastormer

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Seastormer....umm mebe wierd but you pick the same model car and are into bike :cheers:

Don't want to divert the thread but bikes are a big part of my time... I to got on the road in 1977.... but I started Scrambling in 72.... which is the old word for moto-X for you yung-uns :blahblah:
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Lots of old memeries on that list. and a lot of members on this site are also into bikes, do you have a bike at the moment, and if so what is it?
 

Action Man

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Stormer ...Oh yes I still have bikes.... if you ever sell your last one you never get another...cos life gets in the way.... I'm very fortunate that I've managed to keep most of my toys ...some even live in the house
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Seastormer

Cupra Leon VZ2 300/CBF1000
Apr 25, 2014
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Edinburgh (Scotland)
Stormer ...Oh yes I still have bikes.... if you ever sell your last one you never get another...cos life gets in the way.... I'm very fortunate that I've managed to keep most of my toys ...some even live in the house
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That looks really cool, wish I had a space for mine in the house but too much other junk already. Mine lives in a lock up I own about a mile and a half away, along with my push bike collection (which never get used now) 5 mins in the car is fine but.
 

ChrisM75

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By 2026 my LCR will be nearly 22 years old, Im not sure how it could be kept compliant , I highly doubt you will get OEM parts for it by then.
After market exhausts dont have to be loud, you just tend to have to go for a custom unit rather than an off the shelf type.

I used to have a Rover 420 GSI Turbo which had a bucket of an exhaust when I got it. OEM ones simply didnt exist, neither did pattern parts, because only 250 of the cars were ever made. The only option was go custom, or cut and shut a 220 turbo exhaust.
 
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