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gtb2260 on standard map?

Discussion in '(Archived) Engine Discussion and Tuning' started by zach225, Apr 27, 2012.

  1. zach225

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    hi guys

    have decided to go for the gtb2260 route for my ibiza tdi 130.

    darkside want £300 + Vat for fitting alone, which i think is crazy money.

    does anyone know if it can be ran on the standard map? well i have stage 1 map on at the moment. im not talking about power but in terms of 'it will run and drive fine if your drive normally' so i can get it fitted elsewhere and then get them to map it

    any advice?

    zach
     
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    vroomtshh Full Member

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    It'll drive on the standard map. I wouldn;t want it to have any boost at all though if it were me.
     
  4. seatcupramad23

    seatcupramad23 kc4even23

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    stock boost will be fine just don't cane it till you get a remap i'm sure you be ok to go on boost just try to avoid full boost
     
  5. vroomtshh

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    Not as easy in a diesel :D
     
  6. zach225

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    Well dark side are a good 4 hours from me, sounds like I'm better off just paying the extra then I guess :(
     
  7. Leon2012

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    Performance/specialist garages always ask more, although Ryan/Darkside has quoted me reasonable rates before.

    You should be able to get it fitted for around £250 inc. VAT by a good local VAG specialist, but of course you need to make sure you know that they're competent with the job, so that's where going to Ryan/Darkside takes away the doubt.

    In terms of driving it without it being tuned/mapped for the 2260, if you had to drive it, you should baby it, and only to a garage to get it sorted.

    For the best map/tune, go to: Malone Tuning, TD Tuning, Rocketchip, drivbiwire....all in North America - they can map your car remotely and tweak it with logs, better than all the UK tuners/mappers can.
     
  8. seatcupramad23

    seatcupramad23 kc4even23

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    Take the car back to r tech they ll do it much cheaper
     
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    Really? Driven many cars that are mapped by them? I'm pretty sure Ryan, and my mapper would take offence to that statement
     
  10. Leon2012

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    Being an active member on TDIclub.com and knowing a lot about tuning diesels, I'm sure Ryan would agree with me that the North American mappers/tuners are better than the UK...

    And if your mapper has any sense, he would too!
     
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    I bet he bloody wouldn't :lol:
     
  12. Leon2012

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    Who, Ryan or your guy, because Ryan knows the North Americans have it in the bag regarding diesel tuning/mapping. If your guy doesn't, he's got a lot of catching up to do!
     
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    Neither of the two of them would. Care to enlighten everyone as to how the north americans are doing it better?
     
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    I did email ***** but never heard back, and not even sure if they have fitted/mapped one before
     
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    Not sure I've heard of them having done one, but they'd be plenty capable of doing so, same with mapping
     
  16. Leon2012

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    Well you don't know Ryan then...and your guy sounds like a standard UK tuner, care to name them? Are they known on the international TDI tuning/mapping scene?


    The difference is that the North American diesel tuning market is far more specialist and niche than in the UK. As a result, the people involved are usually real enthusiasts and specialists. Therefore, they have taken tuning to a much deeper level and the top 3 TDI tuners in the world: Mark Malone, TDTuning and Rocketchip, are like professors who know the ECUs in great detail, so they can fine tune a map to be as perfect as can be.

    Perfect as in the ultimate in smoothness and power delivery, along with no smoke to boot! It sounds amazing, but that's their daily mission, and they don't stop until they've achieved it!

    You use a flashing device in your OBD port, and make logs with VCDS to send them and they continue tweaking it until you're 110% satisfied.

    The cost is much less than a "custom map" in the UK, and if you want a further remap in the future if you change set-up again, the North Americans will do it for less than $100 I believe.
     
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    This is an independent review compared of Malone Tuning Vs. REVO stage 2 (from VW Vortex) -

    http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5201120-FlashZilla-Loader-and-ECU-Tunes
     
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    From the main man himself:

    (from same thread as above)
     
  19. vroomtshh

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    Since when did Revo offer maps for GTB equipped diesels?

    And I've yet to see any evidence that North americans map any better than UK mappers.

    More internet heresay - still no real life experience. I see a common theme with your postings
     
  20. Leon2012

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    Well you can lead a horse (or an ostrich in this case) to water....
     

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