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Discussion in 'MK1 & MK2 Toledo' started by odd-head, Jun 14, 2010.
It doesn't look right to me? Not for the mark 2 toledo head unit anyway.
Hmm not too sure which one it is then. I've got the double din sat nav unit.
Also can you still get updated maps for these things, and do they come with European maps as standard or just UK?
Yes you can, the I've seen a 2011 version of the CD. However, it's not cheap (>£100) and because it's a CD rather than a DVD it'll only be UK. Europe is available, but it'll be another CD (and another £100...)
Just had a look at eBay.de has loads more to choose from. If I use a german cd, I wonder if the spoken instructions will be in German? Not a massive issue as I speak a fair bit of German, but would probably be annoying after a while.
Just discovered that the discs are multilingual. Nice. Now to find and an Alps and MRE for a reasonable cost.
The discs might be multilingual, but I don't think the unit is. I managed to get a European disc to try out (A map of some obscure city that I didn't recognise), and it didn't work. Admittedly it could have been the disc at fault, but it definitely wasn't happy.
Of course, if you do find a UK map that works I would appreciate the Ebay item number.
Looks like the discs are multi lingual. Result. I'll be continent bound for 10 months of the year, might be up for selling you the original UK disc thats in the unit. No idea how old it is, but I'll have a look when I pick up the car on Thursday.
The pictures aren't showing and I'm really confused as to where I wire to get the 12v power.
Sorry, I thought I'd fixed the links. I can't get to them from work at the moment, send me a PM and I'll make sure I get them sorted when I get home.
If it's any help, the 12 volts going into the sat nav is a fair bit thicker than all the others, and is coloured red.
Here is my original post with the images updated (hopefully!)
Slimy, if you're still tinkering with this any chance to put up a picture of the back with the GPS antenna plug visible (even possibly disconnected)? I've been having a problem with GPS signal reception, so trying to figure out why that is.
Any idea how to check if the GPS antenna is working as it should (i.e. measurement references of some sort)?
Are these any good for you (it's a bit of an awkward angle);
I'm afraid I have no idea how to test the aerial though.
Yeah, that's decent Thanks! EDIT: You're practically golden, replying in record time
Just to make sure, this is the GPS antenna connection right? (I assume there's two -- one for the GPS and one for the AM/FM)
Looks like an SMC connector.
Any idea where I could hide a GPS receiver if I end up having to replace mine and can't find an OEM one? Is it possible to relatively easily thread a wire from the glove box to the back of the nav system?
Yeah, the aerial connector is a standard UHF connector and is in the far corner.
There's plenty of space just behind the climate control panel, a bit more down behind the ashtray and behind the glovebox. It's also pretty easy to route wires from the glovebox to the head unit. You should be able to get a GPS receiver in any of those sections.
The fourth picture down on the original pics shows my attempt at a preamp enclosure, it's about three inches wide by 2 inches deep, and it sits fine just below the head unit.
You're right. I took out the head unit today (the keys arrived today). I measured the resistance across the connector -- I got something around 480 Ohm, which is most likely not what it should be.
Slimy, if you have the time, could you please measure the resistance across the GPS antenna connector? It would be good to know I am correct on my assumption.
Now the question is whether I try to pry out the aerial and see if the problem is there, or just spend 10 quid on a new GPS antenna from eBay. I had a look under the headlining to see how I might get the aerial out and I can see the nut that has to be undone. I'll likely manage to get the aerial out, but is it worth it?
If there is a break somewhere in the cable between the head unit and the aerial, I won't be able to re-wire it. Also, it's unlikely that I'll be able to repair the aerial, so it would have to be a replacement from SEAT anyway, if I wanted to stay with the original one (likely to cost a fair few bob as well). EDIT: The replacement costs 240 quid -- so that's not going to happen .
I got a new antenna, but that did not help at all. Any ideas? I am stuck
Slimy thanks for that it's working great now Took me a while to get around to it hence the delay in thanks!
Incidentally I didn't get the same lead everyone else is getting as I didn't need two phono a 3.5mm jack made more sense, I got this
While the wire is yellow not blue, it does work a treat.
Does anybody have an idea what this is:
Sorry dvance, didn't see your post about the impedance. I don't think that's going to help you much though, with it being amplified I doubt it's simply a bog standard wire.
Then again, maybe it's only the radio that's amplified rather than the GPS? I'm not sure. As for the metal box, that doesn't look familiar at all!! I can't even imagine where it could sit!
I can measure the impedance for you but it might have to wait until tomorrow if that's ok?
One question for you though, most sat navs report the fact that they have no signal. Is yours actually saying no signal or are the maps just not showing your location? Is it any different when you unplug the aerial?
Yeah, take your time with the impedance. It's supposed to be an active antenna I believe (for the GPS as well) but it still could give some information.
Will check if it says different things plugged and unplugged, but I don't believe so.
I just don't get any satellites found or connected to. So it just tells me that it cannot determine my geographical location at the time. I do get a location displayed on the map, but it's quite old (think 4-5 months back when I went down to Dunbar).
I guess also the inertia (or whatever it's called) nav system kinda works, as it changes the position a bit as I drive, but never get satellites connected.