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How to tell if your K1 is Real

Discussion in 'Leon Mk2' started by AndrewJB, Aug 24, 2011.

  1. big eck

    big eck Banned

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    Now now Al, that's a bit harsh. Just because it has different bumpers from yours doesn't make it a bad car.
     
  2. Al

    Al Senior Member

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    Never said it did - read it again ;)

    The bumpers on the car delivered as a Cupra K1 (often with Cupra 240 on the V5) quite often had poorly painted/fitted Aero kit.

    My point was that if people believe paying more for a car SEAT might not be arsed to confirm started as a Cupra K1 which when they were released at first often had poorly painted/fitted Aero kit or a Cupra that has since had the same Aero Kit fiited along with the K1 badge and central exhaust, then more fool them as the Cupra K1 is no different than a Cupra with the same body kit badge and exhaust other than it will probably be finished better. Remember neither the Cupra, Cupra K1 or Cupra R were a limited/numbered run model. The only one from the three that should hold a premium price is the Cupra R.
     
  3. AndrewJB

    AndrewJB SEAT Motorsport UK

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    Only limited Run model was FR550
     
  4. toosmiles

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    just been through the seat insurance as said above to check mine and its an original K1 thank god:funk:
     
  5. Queen Smokey II

    Queen Smokey II Full Member

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    My FR has a factory fitted K1 kit. But obviously its not a Cupra. Is this a real K1 then?? x
     
  6. Al

    Al Senior Member

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    Haha - points above proved. Sadly though yours is not even though it looks the same.
     
  7. AndrewJB

    AndrewJB SEAT Motorsport UK

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    Steff nope its not lol
     
  8. JC06GAN_K1

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    theres no real way other than confirming with a dealership :)
     
  9. AndrewJB

    AndrewJB SEAT Motorsport UK

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    SEAT UK will tell you

    Dealer will say yes even if its not just to add £££

    Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
     
  10. toosmiles

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    Dear Mr Wood

    Thank you for your recent contact via www.seat.co.uk regarding your SEAT Leon.

    Having checked our internal database I am pleased to confirm that your SEAT
    Leon is an official K1.

    I do hope this information proves useful to you; however, if you require any
    further assistance, please do not hesitate to
    contact me on the details below and I will be more than happy to help you.

    Kind Regards


    Fiona Hankin
    Customer Relations Advisor
    SEAT UK
    Tel 0500 222 222
     
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  11. Scottp210

    Scottp210 scotttheboy

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    This thread helped me find out - I called Seat & they confirmed mine is a 'real' K1 - it also comes up with K! whn trying to get insurance quotes
     
  12. Gary@Cookies

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    Or, if the dealer knows what he's talking about he'll tell you the truth and offer more for one that's not a "real" K1 !!!!:whistle:
     
  13. Hopkins9205

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    same, I simply rang SEAT UK and they confirmed over the phone that my K1 was genuine
     
  14. Robbo_wm

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    Ive put a few reg's in parkers guide website in the valuation section and seems to come up with cupra k1 on ones that I know are real (promo pics ect). But I don't know any reg for ones fitted with the kit afterwards.

    Anyone got one they wanna try. parkers.co.uk/cars/prices/
     
  15. M6ccy69

    M6ccy69 My Other Beast Is a R1

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    thanks for the info! ive just put mine up forsale & someones been to view it & said can u prove its real! ive just done a parkers valuation & its come up K1! . happy happy! as it was chaffing mi! its confirmed so buzzin!
     
  16. Scby555

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    SEAT UK will tell you, just drop them an email or call.
    Insurance quotes should also come up with "K1". If they don't they will think its a normal cupra with an "after fit" bodykit which needs to be declared as a modification, even if fitted by the dealer: aka it was not factory fit.
     
  17. Scott.T

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    So how many K1 owners are running around in K1 that show as Cupra FSI T on the V5.
    I've pushed a few numbers through a reg check and of 30 numbers 6 have come back as Cupra FSI T, the rest as Cupra K1 FSI T.

    The one I'm buying comes back as Cupra FSI T, but it was a Dealer Demo car ??

    SEAT UK have also confirmed that it's not registered as a K1, but then they are probably using the same registration database as everyone else (the wording of the response would seem to indicate that).

    I'm not that bothered it's showing as a lowly Cupra, as it's in cracking condition. But I am trying to establish why and how some are registered as K1 whereas others are not. If only just to help explain to anyone as anal as me about the history.

    Perhaps those converted by dealers are not showing K1 on the V5 due to type approval/registration approval/official sign-off.
    TBH I'm surprised a vehicle can be modified upon entry into the UK and be registered as a different model. Surely SEAT UK would of had to seek new model type approval.

    It could be like a Prodrive Performance Pack (PPP) Subaru or Subaru WR that doesn't show on the V5 and are converted by dealers (early ones were converted by Prodrive). The vehicle had to be registered to an owner prior to modification in order to get around the type approval. I know the regulation was tightened up some years ago, perhaps this coincides with the importing of the K1.
     
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  18. Scby555

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    I think you are correct. The "real" K1s were supplied as is ready to go.
    But that didn't stop dealers fitting the parts as they were available as options before the concept of a K1 was even thought of.

    "Real" K1s will be confirmed by SEAT and will show K1 on V5 and insurance databases.

    Technically "fake" K1s are modified Cupra's so you should use modified insurance to cover the exhaust and bodykit changes.
     
  19. AndrewJB

    AndrewJB SEAT Motorsport UK

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    Real K1 were fitted by SEAT UK before delivery to dealers, anything else was fitted by dealers before sale or after sale.

    its really that simple.
     
  20. Scott.T

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    So if you have a K1 spec car for sale, a genuine K1 should be advertised as :
    SEAT Leon Cupra K1
    A dealer fit should really be advertised as :
    SEAT Leon Cupra, K1 Specification/Aerokit

    It's just a bit strange that the dealer fit one come with everything i.e Exhaust, Orion Alloys, badges. Surely SEAT UK must of approved their recreation.

    It's also quite a cost premium that a dealer or purchaser would have to find (Aerokit £1000, Wheels £800, Paint £500), over what the genuine K1 specification additional cost was (£1000).

    Not that I'm bothered at the moment, I just don't want to mislead when it comes to move mine on. Hopefully that will be a few years on from now.
     

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