JBS Manifold Logs

[jonathanp]

Boost, EGT's, MAF and Timing

Group A:	'115				Group B:	'112				Group C:	'003			
		RPM	Load	Absolute Pres.	Absolute Pres.		Temperature	Load	Bin. Bits	Bin. Bits		RPM	Mass Flow	Load	Ign. Timing
	TIME					TIME					TIME				
Marker	STAMP	 /min	 %	 mbar	 mbar	STAMP	C	 %			STAMP	 /min	 g/s	 %	 BTDC
	0.02	3040	73.7	2160	930	0.3	530	0	        	        	0.61	3080	95.83	100	22.5
	0.91	3160	163.9	2130	1830	1.22	540	0	        	        	1.52	3480	152.97	100	6.8
	1.82	3640	191.7	2250	2520	2.12	585	0	        	        	2.43	3960	169.31	100	13.5
	2.73	4120	191.7	2380	2500	3.03	700	0	        	        	3.33	4440	194.22	100	12
	3.63	4600	191.7	2420	2540	3.93	750	0	        	        	4.24	4840	208.56	100	17.3
	4.54	5000	191.7	2400	2520	4.84	810	0	        	        	5.14	5280	214.78	100	15.8
	5.44	5440	191.7	2370	2470	5.74	825	0	        	        	6.05	5640	220.11	100	15.8
	6.35	5720	191.7	2340	2430	6.65	845	0	        	        	6.95	5920	222.58	100	13.5
	7.25	6040	191.7	2320	2540	7.55	870	0	        	        	7.87	6160	218.72	52.2	18
	8.16	6240	182.7	2300	2530	8.47	900	0	        	        	8.77	6400	220.11	52.2	18
	9.07	6480	178.9	2290	2530	9.36	910	0	        	        	9.68	6680	224.03	52.2	17.3
	9.97	6720	176.7	2300	2460	10.27	920	1.2	        	        	10.57	6840	222.06	52.2	23.3
	10.88	6920	162.4	2290	2520	11.18	920	3.1	        	        	11.49	7040	223.83	52.2	24
	11.78	7120	170.7	2310	2450	12.08	915	0.4	        	        	12.39	6680	0	6.7	9.8
	12.68	6040	15	980	1360	12.99	910	0	        	        	13.29	5560	16.28	11	5.3

Injection time & MAF, Lambda, Coolant and Lambda regulation

Group A:	'002				Group B:	'031				Group C:	'099			
		RPM	Load	Inj. On Time	Mass Flow		Lambda Factor	Lambda Factor	Bin. Bits	Bin. Bits		RPM	Temperature	Lambda	 
	TIME					TIME					TIME				
Marker	STAMP	 /min	 %	 ms	 g/s	STAMP					STAMP	 /min	C	 %	
	0.6	1960	88	6.46	37.81	0.02	1.991	0.945	        	        	0.3	1920	82	0	O2-Reg.OFF
	1.51	2120	109.8	7.82	50.94	0.9	0.93	0.961	        	        	1.22	2040	82	-6.3	O2-Reg.ON
	2.42	2280	130.1	8.84	63.08	1.82	0.938	0.953	        	        	2.12	2240	82	-8.6	O2-Reg.ON
	3.33	2480	164.7	10.88	88.69	2.72	0.969	0.953	        	        	3.03	2440	82	-9.4	O2-Reg.ON
	4.23	2800	191.7	12.58	111.72	3.62	0.938	0.953	        	        	3.92	2720	82	-11.7	O2-Reg.ON
	5.14	3160	171.4	12.58	119.5	4.54	0.984	0.953	        	        	4.84	3040	82	-3.9	O2-Reg.ON
	6.05	3520	175.9	14.28	130.33	5.44	0.891	0.883	        	        	5.74	3400	82	3.1	O2-Reg.ON
	6.95	3880	186.5	14.62	153.69	6.35	0.828	0.844	        	        	6.65	3760	82	2.3	O2-Reg.ON
	7.86	4280	191.7	14.28	167.58	7.25	0.821	0.836	        	        	7.56	4120	83	-2.3	O2-Reg.ON
	8.76	4640	191.7	14.28	192.11	8.16	0.828	0.828	        	        	8.46	4520	83	-7	O2-Reg.ON
	9.67	5000	191.7	14.28	205.44	9.06	0.813	0.828	        	        	9.37	4880	83	-6.3	O2-Reg.ON
	10.57	5400	191.7	13.94	214.19	9.97	0.813	0.828	        	        	10.27	5240	84	-7	O2-Reg.ON
	11.49	5720	191.7	13.94	215.94	10.87	0.828	0.828	        	        	11.18	5600	84	-7.8	O2-Reg.ON
	12.38	6000	191	13.6	216.97	11.78	0.813	0.828	        	        	12.08	5920	84	-10.9	O2-Reg.ON
	13.29	6200	183.5	12.92	220.47	12.68	0.813	0.828	        	        	12.99	6160	84	-14.8	O2-Reg.ON
	14.19	6440	178.2	12.92	219.06	13.59	0.805	0.828	        	        	13.89	6400	84	-11.7	O2-Reg.ON
	15.11	6640	178.9	12.92	222.58	14.49	0.821	0.828	        	        	14.8	6560	85	-15.6	O2-Reg.ON
	16	6840	166.9	11.22	226.14	15.4	0.844	0.828	        	        	15.71	6800	85	-17.2	O2-Reg.ON
	16.92	7040	164.7	11.22	223.67	16.31	0.828	0.828	        	        	16.62	7000	86	-14.8	O2-Reg.ON
	17.81	7160	163.9	13.6	224.72	17.21	0.75	0.813	        	        	17.51	7120	86	0	O2-Reg.OFF
	18.72	6600	12	1.36	0	18.12	0.75	0.813	        	        	18.42	7240	86	0	O2-Reg.OFF
	19.62	5720	12.8	0	13.11	19.02	0.828	0.922	        	        	19.32	5760	87	2.3	O2-Reg.OFF

MAF & Timing, Timing Pull, Voltage

Group A:	'003				Group B:	'020				Group C:	'026			
		RPM	Mass Flow	Load	Ign. Timing		Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization		Voltage	Voltage	Voltage	Voltage
	TIME					TIME					TIME				
Marker	STAMP	 /min	 g/s	 %	 °BTDC	STAMP	°KW	°KW	°KW	°KW	STAMP	 V	 V	 V	 V
	0.02	1760	27.69	82	21.8	0.3	0	0	0	0	0.62	2.808	3.042	2.691	2.574
	0.91	1920	36.14	96.5	18.8	1.21	0	0	0	0	1.51	3.159	3.276	2.808	3.159
	1.82	2080	48.72	100	12	2.11	0	0	0	0	2.42	3.861	3.861	3.51	3.744
	2.73	2320	58.33	100	15.8	3.02	0	0	0	0	3.33	4.212	5.265	3.861	3.861
	3.63	2520	84.89	100	11.3	3.92	0	0	0	0	4.23	5.733	7.02	5.85	5.148
	4.54	2880	120.44	100	6	4.84	0	0	0	0	5.14	8.073	8.424	6.786	7.488
	5.44	3240	114.89	29	9.8	5.74	0	0	0	0	6.05	12.168	11.232	11.466	13.104
	6.35	3600	135.56	31.8	11.3	6.65	0	3	0	0	6.95	14.976	14.976	13.689	18.018
	7.25	3960	170.75	35.7	15	7.55	0	3	0	0	7.86	16.146	22.464	15.561	19.89
	8.16	4360	173.89	43.1	15.8	8.46	0	2.3	0	0	8.76	19.305	21.177	14.976	20.592
	9.06	4680	192.33	45.1	16.5	9.36	0	0.8	0	0	9.68	20.592	27.378	18.72	25.506
	9.97	5040	206.56	45.9	18.8	10.27	0	0	0	0	10.57	21.177	24.921	19.305	26.208
	10.87	5320	210.5	46.7	18.8	11.17	0	0	0	0	11.48	18.72	25.506	19.89	28.08
	11.78	5640	217.39	47.5	16.5	12.08	0	0	0	0	12.38	14.976	18.72	11.817	20.592
	12.68	5680	198.56	47.8	24	12.99	0	0	0	0	13.29	21.762	17.433	19.305	26.208
	13.59	5840	214.19	48.6	18.8	13.89	0	0	0	0	14.19	19.305	21.177	19.89	28.665
	14.49	6080	220.47	51	17.3	14.8	0	0	0	0	15.1	21.177	26.208	14.976	28.08
	15.41	6200	220.75	51.8	21.8	15.7	0	0	0	0	16.01	27.378	23.634	17.433	26.208
	16.31	6440	220.11	52.2	17.3	16.61	0	0	0	0	16.91	29.835	26.208	18.018	29.835
	17.21	6400	222.58	52.2	23.3	17.52	0	0	0	0	17.82	29.835	27.378	19.89	29.835
	18.13	6640	222.58	52.2	18	18.42	0	0	0	0	18.72	29.835	29.835	21.762	29.835
	19.02	6760	226.06	51.8	24	19.33	0	0	0	0	19.62	24.921	24.921	21.762	29.835
	19.94	6880	226.53	51.8	24	20.24	0	0	0	0	20.54	22.464	29.835	23.634	29.835
	20.83	6480	53.03	6.3	9.8	21.13	0	0	0	0	21.43	9.594	11.232	8.424	7.722

Boost requested VS Actual, AIR Intake Temp, Boost and N75 Duty, Torque

Group A:	'115				Group B:	'118				Group C:	'122			
		RPM	Load	Absolute Pres.	Absolute Pres.		RPM	Temperature	Load	Absolute Pres.		RPM	Torque	Torque	 
	TIME					TIME					TIME				
Marker	STAMP	 /min	 %	 mbar	 mbar	STAMP	 /min	C	 %	 mbar	STAMP	 /min	 Nm	 Nm	
	0.87	2080	106.8	1940	1320	0.28	1960	17	84.3	1170	0.57	2040	436.6	186.2	No Torq Red
	1.78	2280	125.6	2040	1540	1.18	2120	18	82	1400	1.48	2200	436.6	224.7	No Torq Red
	2.68	2480	154.9	2070	1850	2.08	2320	18	80.4	1630	2.39	2400	436.6	276.1	No Torq Red
	3.59	2760	191.7	2060	2410	3	2560	20	69.8	2010	3.29	2680	436.6	344.5	No Torq Red
	4.5	3120	174.4	2090	2540	3.9	2880	20	60	2540	4.2	3000	436.6	351	No Torq Red
	5.41	3440	175.2	2170	2540	4.81	3240	20	60	2540	5.11	3360	436.6	325.3	No Torq Red
	6.31	3800	183.5	2280	2540	5.71	3600	20	62	2540	6	3680	436.6	342.4	No Torq Red
	7.22	4160	191.7	2350	2540	6.62	3960	20	63.9	2540	6.92	4040	436.6	363.8	No Torq Red
	8.13	4480	191.7	2380	2540	7.52	4240	20	64.3	2540	7.82	4400	436.6	370.2	No Torq Red
	9.03	4840	191.7	2370	2540	8.43	4600	20	64.3	2540	8.73	4720	436.6	363.8	No Torq Red
	9.94	5120	191.7	2360	2540	9.33	4960	21	63.5	2540	9.63	5040	436.6	361.7	No Torq Red
	10.85	5440	191.7	2350	2540	10.24	5240	21	62	2540	10.54	5360	436.6	340.3	No Torq Red
	11.75	5640	191.7	2340	2540	11.14	5520	22	59.2	2540	11.44	5600	436.6	331.7	No Torq Red
	12.66	5880	191.7	2320	2540	12.05	5760	23	55.3	2540	12.35	5760	436.6	327.4	No Torq Red
	13.56	6040	190.2	2320	2540	12.95	5960	24	50.6	2540	13.26	6000	436.6	325.3	No Torq Red
	14.47	6200	185.7	2320	2540	13.86	6040	24	44.3	2540	14.17	6120	436.6	316.7	No Torq Red
	15.37	6240	181.2	2320	2540	14.76	6240	26	34.9	2540	15.08	6280	436.6	295.3	No Torq Red
	16.27	6360	176.7	2320	2540	15.68	6360	27	5.5	2540	15.97	6320	436.6	297.5	No Torq Red
	17.18	6520	178.2	2330	2530	16.57	6440	27	0	2540	16.89	6440	436.6	284.6	No Torq Red
	18.09	6640	178.2	2330	2470	17.49	6560	27	0	2500	17.79	6600	436.6	282.5	No Torq Red
	18.99	6800	172.2	2340	2460	18.39	6680	28	0	2480	18.7	6760	436.6	273.9	No Torq Red
	19.9	6880	168.4	2350	2500	19.29	6840	29	0	2450	19.59	6840	436.6	286.8	No Torq Red
	20.81	6960	163.2	2350	2510	20.21	6920	29	0	2470	20.5	6960	436.6	265.4	No Torq Red

First impressions are good. No loss of low down torque which I thought I might get with a hi flow manifold, boost is held a lot longer at high rpms than before. Can now hold near 24 PSI to the red line where before it was just under 19.

Unfortunately I haven't had much time to test as the car is in for repair due to an earlier accident. Also have an odd problem with #2 missfire every time I go over 6k.

Once I get the car back and fix the missfire I'll be able to give a better review

 

[PhilW]

Are you running a boost controller?

What car and what mods?

 

[jonathanp]

Yeah I'm running HKS EVC 6

Car is an 04 LCR, JBS05, Forge FMIC, wmi, CC 3, 3" turbo back with decat. 550CC Injectors

 

[ibizacupra]

logs show less airflow than before?
EGT's int o the 900's and its just stareting to fuel dump. what gear did you do the logs in jon?
eh?

 

[jonathanp]

not sure these are JBS's logs, I'll post up my own logs up in a bit.

You mean MAF readings are showing less? Not sure why that is I'm sure I used to get nearly 250g/s.

Can you remember what my previous ones were from the weekend? I though it was around 220

 

[ibizacupra]

I need to check the laptop which is in the unit, where I wont be till later

Was the code reflashed?

 

[jonathanp]

nope, except I think they changed the cylinder filling

 

[ibizacupra]

Are you sure these are logs off your car Jon?
This is what they plot out at..

 

[jonathanp]

as far as I know yeah, I have other logs from the drive home but they are blocks 020 & 031 and 020 & 115. I'll do some more logs when I get it back from the bodyshop.

I'm fairly sure my maf is knackered so will try and test with a spare

 

[ibizacupra]

interestingly block 120 torque matched airflow 1.2 x g/s for power - low numbers tho on both of them

 

[ibizacupra]

Previous log I have for you has more logged airflow

Sunday	17	October	2010	12:24:14:61786	VCDS Version: Release 10.6.1	Data version: 20100831									
1ML 906 032 A		1.8l R4/5VT     G02 0001													

	Group A:	'002				Group B:	'020				Group C:	'118			
		RPM	Load	Inj. On Time	Mass Flow		Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization		RPM	Temperature	Load	Absolute Pres.
	TIME					TIME					TIME				
Marker	STAMP	 /min	 %	 ms	 g/s	STAMP	°KW	°KW	°KW	°KW	STAMP	 /min	°C	 %	 mbar

	30.88	1560	85.7	6.46	28.28	31.19	0	0	0	0	31.48	1720	26	84.3	1180
	31.78	1840	97.7	7.14	38.86	32.09	0	0	0	0	32.4	2160	24	82	1370
	32.7	2280	120.3	8.16	58.61	32.99	0	0	0	0	33.3	2560	24	80.4	1720
	33.59	2680	165.4	10.88	99.92	33.9	0	0	0	0	34.21	3080	22	63.5	2510
	34.51	3320	191.7	12.92	134.17	34.81	0	0	0	0	35.11	3680	21	65.1	2540
	35.42	3840	185.7	14.28	154.58	35.72	0	0	0	0	36.02	4160	21	66.7	2540
	36.32	4320	191.7	13.94	183	36.62	0	0	0	0	36.92	4560	21	67.1	2540
	37.23	4720	191.7	14.28	186.67	37.53	0	0	0	0	37.83	5000	21	66.3	2540
	38.13	5120	191.7	14.28	209.67	38.44	0	0	0	0	38.73	5360	21	64.3	2540
	39.04	5440	191.7	14.28	216.28	39.34	0	0	0	0	39.64	5640	22	63.1	2540
	39.94	5720	191.7	14.62	222.64	40.25	0	0	0	0	40.55	5920	24	60.4	2520
	40.85	6000	191.7	15.3	228.69	41.15	0	0	0	0	41.45	6200	24	56.9	2460
	41.76	6280	188.7	13.26	228.78	42.05	0	3	0	0	42.37	6440	26	52.2	2500
	42.66	6520	186.5	12.92	231.97	42.96	0	3	0	0	43.27	6720	27	49.8	2490
	43.56	6800	169.9	12.24	234.75	43.87	0	0	0	0	44.17	6040	25	0	1490

you got a poorly maf now?

 

[ibizacupra]

1ML 906 032 A		1.8l R4/5VT     G02 0001									
											
	Group A:	'031		Group B:	'112		Group C:	'118			
		Lambda Factor	Lambda Factor		Temperature	Load		RPM	Temperature	Load	Absolute Pres.
	TIME			TIME			TIME				
Marker	STAMP			STAMP	°C	 %	STAMP	 /min	°C	 %	 mbar

	29.56	0.961	1	29.87	490	0	29.26	1480	31	84.3	1100
	30.48	0.945	0.953	30.78	505	0	30.16	1560	29	84.3	1180
	31.37	0.938	0.953	31.68	525	0	31.07	1960	27	84.3	1280
	32.28	0.93	0.953	32.59	560	0	31.99	2360	26	80.4	1530
	33.19	0.938	0.953	33.49	600	0	32.89	2840	26	69	2090
	34.1	0.836	0.86	34.4	660	0	33.78	3480	24	64.7	2530
	35	0.821	0.836	35.3	715	0	34.7	4120	23	67.1	2520
	35.91	0.821	0.828	36.21	765	0	35.61	4560	22	67.8	2510
	36.81	0.813	0.828	37.11	790	0	36.51	5000	21	67.1	2500
	37.72	0.821	0.828	38.02	810	0	37.42	5320	21	67.1	2380
	38.62	0.821	0.828	38.93	820	0	38.32	5600	21	66.3	2440
	39.53	0.828	0.828	39.83	835	0	39.23	5840	23	64.7	2420
	40.43	0.813	0.828	40.74	855	0	40.13	6080	24	63.5	2420
	41.34	0.821	0.828	41.65	865	0	41.04	6320	25	61.2	2380
	42.24	0.828	0.828	42.55	875	0	41.94	6560	27	54.9	2480
	43.16	0.828	0.828	43.45	885	0	42.86	6840	28	47.8	2500

 

[jonathanp]

hrm, I'm deffo seeing more boost, just weird that airflow is less.

Unless I have a leak and its sucking in air the maf doesn't know about

 

[ibizacupra]

in the comparisons, the later runs with new mani, run hotter and show less airflow, neither makes sense..
wildwillys see's 250g/s as does wellys, and speedysteves hybrid even more than that

be interesting to see the logs you get yourself.
ps. dont forget to email me re the pump quote

 

[jonathanp]

These are the logs from before the manifold was fitted. Also edited first post as I missed one of the logs





Injection time & MAF, Lambda, Coolant and Lambda regulation

Group A:	'002				Group B:	'031				Group C:	'099			
		RPM	Load	Inj. On Time	Mass Flow		Lambda Factor	Lambda Factor	Bin. Bits	Bin. Bits		RPM	Temperature	Lambda	 
	TIME					TIME					TIME				
Marker	STAMP	 /min	 %	 ms	 g/s	STAMP					STAMP	 /min	°C	 %	
	0.02	2000	53.4	5.44	32.25	0.24	0.844	1	        	        	0.54	2040	85	0	O2-Reg.OFF
	0.85	2080	97	6.8	44.5	1.14	0.938	0.953	        	        	1.45	2200	86	-11.7	O2-Reg.ON
	1.75	2280	122.6	8.5	58.36	2.06	0.938	0.953	        	        	2.35	2400	86	-12.5	O2-Reg.ON
	2.66	2480	153.4	9.86	81	2.96	0.938	0.953	        	        	3.27	2680	86	-14.8	O2-Reg.ON
	3.57	2760	191.7	13.26	121.17	3.87	0.93	0.953	        	        	4.17	3000	86	-13.3	O2-Reg.ON
	4.47	3120	191.7	13.6	129.17	4.76	0.938	0.899	        	        	5.08	3320	86	-8.6	O2-Reg.ON
	5.38	3480	182	13.94	151.92	5.68	0.828	0.844	        	        	5.98	3720	86	-6.3	O2-Reg.ON
	6.28	3840	185	14.62	141.56	6.58	0.844	0.836	        	        	6.89	4080	86	-7.8	O2-Reg.ON
	7.19	4240	191.7	14.96	174.36	7.49	0.789	0.828	        	        	7.79	4440	86	-17.2	O2-Reg.ON
	8.1	4560	191.7	13.94	179.56	8.4	0.821	0.828	        	        	8.7	4840	87	-17.2	O2-Reg.ON
	9.01	4920	191.7	13.94	191.03	9.3	0.828	0.828	        	        	9.6	5160	87	-15.6	O2-Reg.ON
	9.91	5280	191.7	13.94	202.42	10.21	0.836	0.828	        	        	10.51	5520	87	-19.5	O2-Reg.ON
	10.81	5600	191.7	13.6	210.11	11.11	0.821	0.828	        	        	11.41	5840	87	-18.8	O2-Reg.ON
	11.72	5920	189.5	13.6	213.5	12.03	0.813	0.828	        	        	12.32	6120	87	-20.3	O2-Reg.ON
	12.63	6200	182.7	12.58	216.28	12.93	0.821	0.828	        	        	13.24	6360	87	-17.2	O2-Reg.ON
	13.53	6440	175.9	12.24	218.36	13.84	0.836	0.828	        	        	14.13	6600	87	-17.2	O2-Reg.ON
	14.43	6680	178.9	12.58	218.97	14.74	0.821	0.828	        	        	15.04	6800	87	-18	O2-Reg.ON
	15.34	6840	178.2	12.92	221.61	15.64	0.797	0.828	        	        	15.95	6960	87	-15.6	O2-Reg.ON
	16.24	7040	164.7	13.94	220.72	16.54	0.75	0.828	        	        	16.85	7120	87	0	O2-Reg.OFF
	17.15	7160	179.7	15.3	222.5	17.45	0.75	0.828	        	        	17.75	7240	88	0	O2-Reg.OFF
	18.05	6600	12.8	1.36	0	18.35	0.828	0.922	        	        	18.66	5760	88	0	O2-Reg.OFF
	133.02	760	20.3	1.7	2.92	133.31	1.14	0.945	        	        	133.61	760	76	0	O2-Reg.OFF
	133.91	760	20.3	1.7	2.97	134.22	1.164	0.945	        	        	134.52	720	76	0	O2-Reg.OFF

MAF & Timing, Timing Pull, Voltage

Group A:	'003				Group B:	'020				Group C:	'026			
		RPM	Mass Flow	Load	Ign. Timing		Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization		Voltage	Voltage	Voltage	Voltage
	TIME					TIME					TIME				
Marker	STAMP	 /min	 g/s	 %	 °BTDC	STAMP	°KW	°KW	°KW	°KW	STAMP	 V	 V	 V	 V
	0.01	1920	29.78	70.2	23.3	0.23	0	0	0	0	0.53	3.51	3.51	3.276	2.925
	0.83	2040	39.97	100	18.8	1.13	0	0	0	0	1.44	3.744	3.861	4.329	3.159
	1.75	2200	50	100	15.8	2.05	0	0	0	0	2.35	4.797	4.212	3.861	3.744
	2.65	2440	64.03	100	15	2.94	0	0	0	0	3.26	4.68	4.914	3.978	3.744
	3.55	2680	91.81	100	8.3	3.86	0	0	0	0	4.16	6.552	6.552	5.85	5.616
	4.45	3040	121.06	100	4.5	4.76	0	0	0	0	5.06	7.722	10.53	7.722	8.424
	5.36	3400	134.08	100	5.3	5.67	0	0	0	0	5.96	10.881	14.04	10.881	13.104
	6.27	3800	168.53	100	10.5	6.58	0	0	0	0	6.88	12.753	19.305	13.689	16.848
	7.18	4200	164.44	100	13.5	7.48	0	0	0	0	7.78	15.561	18.72	13.689	18.018
	8.07	4560	180.83	100	15.8	8.39	0	0	0	0	8.69	19.89	23.634	18.018	23.634
	8.99	4920	188.69	100	16.5	9.29	0	0	0	0	9.59	19.89	29.25	22.464	24.336
	9.9	5200	201.08	100	18	10.2	0	0	0	0	10.5	15.561	25.506	20.592	25.506
	10.8	5520	208.28	100	18.8	11.1	0	0	0	0	11.4	19.305	28.08	20.592	28.665
	11.7	5800	213.86	100	18	12.01	0	0	0	0	12.31	17.433	26.793	21.762	26.793
	12.61	6040	218.72	100	18.8	12.91	0	0	0	0	13.21	21.762	29.835	21.177	26.208
	13.52	6280	216.61	99.6	21	13.82	0	0	0	0	14.13	22.464	29.835	29.835	29.835
	14.43	6480	218.97	99.6	20.3	14.72	0	0	0	0	15.02	23.049	29.835	23.634	29.835
	15.33	6640	220.72	100	18	15.63	0	0	3	3	15.94	27.378	29.835	24.921	29.835
	16.23	6800	221.89	99.6	20.3	16.53	0	0	3	3	16.83	23.634	29.835	24.921	29.835
	17.14	6960	219.42	100	24	17.44	0	0	2.3	3	17.74	19.89	29.835	21.177	29.835
	18.04	7080	220.72	99.6	24.8	18.34	0	0	2.3	2.3	18.64	18.72	29.835	18.72	29.835
	18.95	7200	223.39	100	23.3	19.25	0	0	1.5	2.3	19.55	13.689	28.665	16.848	24.921
	19.85	7080	0	7.5	3.8	20.15	0	0	0	0	20.46	11.466	13.689	14.976	6.201

EGT's, Boost, MAF and Timing

Group A:	'112				Group B:	'115				Group C:	'003			
		Temperature	Load	Bin. Bits	Bin. Bits		RPM	Load	Absolute Pres.	Absolute Pres.		RPM	Mass Flow	Load	Ign. Timing
	TIME					TIME					TIME				
Marker	STAMP	°C	 %			STAMP	 /min	 %	 mbar	 mbar	STAMP	 /min	 g/s	 %	 °BTDC
	0.01	580	0	        	        	0.29	1840	79.7	1800	990	0.59	1880	34.81	95.3	20.3
	0.9	565	0	        	        	1.21	2000	99.2	1870	1200	1.51	2080	46.28	100	16.5
	1.81	570	0	        	        	2.11	2240	119.5	2060	1430	2.4	2320	61.72	100	15
	2.71	590	0	        	        	3.01	2520	148.9	2090	1760	3.31	2640	94.69	100	7.5
	3.62	615	0	        	        	3.92	2880	191.7	2090	2360	4.21	3000	143.44	100	6
	4.51	660	0	        	        	4.83	3280	191.7	2170	2470	5.13	3480	133.39	100	6
	5.43	725	0	        	        	5.73	3760	191.7	2290	2470	6.02	3880	171.69	100	11.3
	6.33	765	0	        	        	6.64	4160	191.7	2380	2470	6.94	4280	174.94	100	13.5
	7.24	790	0	        	        	7.54	4600	191.7	2410	2430	7.85	4720	180.17	100	15.8
	8.15	810	0	        	        	8.45	4960	191.7	2410	2390	8.75	5120	198.11	100	15
	9.05	820	0	        	        	9.35	5320	191.7	2380	2360	9.66	5440	209.67	100	18
	9.96	825	0	        	        	10.26	5640	191.7	2360	2280	10.56	5720	212.83	100	18
	10.86	835	0	        	        	11.16	5960	191.7	2340	2270	11.47	6040	216.61	100	15.8
	11.77	845	0	        	        	12.07	6200	185	2330	2220	12.37	6320	218	100	21
	12.68	860	0	        	        	12.98	6480	183.5	2330	2200	13.28	6560	218.11	100	22.5
	13.59	870	0	        	        	13.89	6680	170.7	2330	2250	14.19	6760	221.17	100	23.3
	14.48	875	0	        	        	14.79	6880	171.4	2330	2200	15.09	6960	221.17	100	22.5
	15.39	885	0	        	        	15.69	7080	172.2	2330	2180	15.99	7120	220.11	100	24
	16.29	895	0	        	        	16.6	7240	161.7	1770	2370	16.9	7280	210.39	31.8	-3.8
	17.2	890	0	        	        	17.5	6040	14.3	980	1280	17.8	5720	9.92	9.8	5.3
	18.1	885	0	        	        	18.41	5720	12.8	980	1070	18.71	5680	13.28	9.8	6

Boost requested VS Actual, AIR Intake Temp, Boost and N75 Duty, Torque

Group A:	'115				Group B:	'118				Group C:	'122			
		RPM	Load	Absolute Pres.	Absolute Pres.		RPM	Temperature	Load	Absolute Pres.		RPM	Torque	Torque	 
	TIME					TIME					TIME				
Marker	STAMP	 /min	 %	 mbar	 mbar	STAMP	 /min	°C	 %	 mbar	STAMP	 /min	 Nm	 Nm	
	0.6	1840	80.5	1800	1030	0.01	1800	25	0	1000	0.3	1880	436.6	77	No Torq Red
	1.52	1960	99.2	1840	1230	0.91	1880	26	84.3	1100	1.21	1920	436.6	171.2	No Torq Red
	2.42	2120	116.5	2020	1420	1.82	2000	24	83.9	1280	2.11	2080	436.6	209.7	No Torq Red
	3.33	2320	136.8	2080	1630	2.72	2200	24	81.2	1480	3.03	2280	436.6	246.1	No Torq Red
	4.22	2600	172.9	2090	2030	3.62	2400	24	80.4	1730	3.92	2480	436.6	297.5	No Torq Red
	5.14	2920	191.7	2080	2430	4.53	2680	24	67.8	2250	4.83	2800	436.6	365.9	No Torq Red
	6.04	3280	191.7	2170	2440	5.44	3040	24	64.3	2470	5.74	3160	436.6	385.2	No Torq Red
	6.95	3680	191.7	2270	2490	6.34	3440	23	65.1	2460	6.65	3560	436.6	391.6	No Torq Red
	7.85	4040	191.7	2380	2450	7.25	3800	22	66.7	2450	7.55	3920	436.6	393.8	No Torq Red
	8.76	4360	191.7	2410	2440	8.16	4160	22	67.8	2400	8.46	4280	436.6	393.8	No Torq Red
	9.65	4680	191.7	2400	2380	9.06	4480	21	67.8	2420	9.36	4600	436.6	385.2	No Torq Red
	10.57	5000	191.7	2390	2380	9.97	4800	22	69	2400	10.27	4920	436.6	378.8	No Torq Red
	11.48	5320	191.7	2390	2340	10.87	5120	23	68.2	2370	11.17	5200	436.6	368.1	No Torq Red
	12.38	5560	191.7	2380	2280	11.78	5400	23	69.8	2310	12.08	5480	436.6	368.1	No Torq Red
	13.29	5840	191.7	2350	2250	12.68	5680	24	79.6	2270	12.98	5760	436.6	355.2	No Torq Red
	14.19	6040	191.7	2340	2240	13.59	5880	24	80.4	2300	13.89	5960	436.6	333.8	No Torq Red
	15.1	6200	181.2	2340	2270	14.49	6080	25	80.4	2320	14.79	6160	436.6	329.6	No Torq Red
	16.01	6400	178.9	2350	2310	15.4	6320	26	80	2260	15.7	6360	436.6	308.2	No Torq Red
	16.91	6560	172.2	2350	2260	16.3	6440	27	80.4	2220	16.6	6520	436.6	278.2	No Torq Red
	17.81	6720	169.2	2350	2230	17.22	6640	27	80	2250	17.51	6680	436.6	278.2	No Torq Red
	18.72	6840	163.2	2350	2280	18.12	6760	28	80.4	2200	18.42	6800	436.6	250.4	No Torq Red
	19.62	6960	175.9	2330	2120	19.02	6880	29	80.4	2150	19.32	6920	436.6	256.8	No Torq Red
	20.53	7040	149.6	2330	2280	19.92	7000	29	80.4	2250	20.23	7000	436.6	263.2	No Torq Red
	21.43	7160	155.6	2340	2240	20.83	7080	30	80.4	2270	21.13	7120	436.6	276.1	No Torq Red
	22.34	7200	175.2	2200	2280	21.73	7200	30	80.4	2210	22.04	7200	436.6	256.8	No Torq Red
	23.25	6440	13.5	980	1400	22.64	7240	31	43.5	2440	22.94	7000	436.6	0	No Torq Red
	24.15	5600	12.8	980	1090	23.56	5840	24	0	1210	23.85	5600	436.6	0	No Torq Red

Once I get the car back from the bodyshop and changed the coilpacks I'll do some more logs. Also if anyone in the cov area has a MAF I could borrow for an hour to check if mine is faulty let me know

 

[cupra-rich]

More than welcome to lend mine of a diesel LC if its the same as an LCR one?

 

[J@mes]

Boost, EGT's, MAF and Timing

First impressions are good. No loss of low down torque which I thought I might get with a hi flow manifold, boost is held a lot longer at high rpms than before. Can now hold near 24 PSI to the red line where before it was just under 19. Unfortunately I haven't had much time to test as the car is in for repair due to an earlier accident. Also have an odd problem with #2 missfire every time I go over 6k.

Once I get the car back and fix the missfire I'll be able to give a better review

Hi mate,

Iv been waiting for JBS to release this manifold for aaaaages it feels, anyway, what are your initial thoughts? despite what you have said above the logs don't seam to add up?!

Have you sorted your problems out? and what more do you have to say about the manifold? definitely a worth while mod? does the car pull much harder with it? do you think it was worth the money?

Cheers

EDIT: why cant I find the JBS section on here anymore? are they no longer a sponsor?!

 

[jonathanp]

Initial thoughts were good, held boost well and seemed to have more torque up top but as said previously missfires etc stopped any further testing.

Still haven't got the car back (in a fight with insurance co over alloy wheels).

When I get it back I'll get the niggles sorted and then post up some more logs and hopefully dyno runs. It's all to easy to convince yourself your car is faster because you've spent money on it I'd rather have hard facts. That being said it was definately holding more boost up top (or at least thats what my boost controller was reporting)

I was happing to get it mapped to its full potential but I've hit a snag there as well (always seems to be my luck, lol)

As for JBS I think there section was removed about 3 weeks ago as they are no longer a sponsor.

 

[jonathanp]

More than welcome to lend mine of a diesel LC if its the same as an LCR one?

Many thanks for the offer, not sure if they are similar or not I'll have a search through the forums

cheers

 

[wild willy]

what injectors are you running mate.