Wow! a few replies in 24Hrs, I think i get the jist of the comments. the old V8 S4/RS4 is just too costly to run so that why thats discounted. I have looked at a 335i estate and, dare i say it, a 335d but they just don't have that something the Audi has. I will keep looking! Theres always a Passat R36 or even a Phaeton W12!