LCR Requested vs Actual

[LCR mat]

heres mine if its any help
yellow actual
orange requested
http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=13640

 

[ZBOYD]

Z's looks good. I'd be interested to see a block 003 Z

Managed to get out this weekend in the early frost and do a bit of logging.

Did the 003 as requested, i think this was the best run, had a few aborted attempts during the hour or so i spent cruising the manchester motorway network, people getting in the way Could they not see i was busy logging

http://www.seatcupra.net/images/zboydspics/003_zboydlcr.pdf

 

[Wilko]

it looks spot on Z.
Very similar to phils logs, as you'd expect.

 

[YerMother]

Here are some new logs since fitting FMIC

Boost (115)

2680 114.3 1510 1510
2800 124.1 2060 1500
3000 165.4 2350 2030
3240 191.7 2440 2540
3480 191.7 2460 2490
3680 191.7 2470 2440
3880 191.7 2480 2460
4120 191.7 2470 2440
4320 191.7 2450 2440
4520 191.7 2440 2420
4680 191.7 2380 2370
4880 191.7 2350 2330
5080 191.7 2320 2300
5240 191.7 2290 2250
5400 191.7 2270 2230
5560 188.7 2240 2190
5680 182 2210 2160
5840 175.9 2180 2160
5960 166.2 2160 2170
6080 175.2 2140 2060
6200 174.4 2130 2110
6280 168.4 2110 2100
6400 178.9 2100 2100
6520 145.9 2090 2190
6640 177.4 2070 2050
6720 166.2 2050 2080
6840 137.6 2040 2210
6920 159.4 2040 2050

MAF (003)
3240 82.97 83.1
3480 145.67 100
3920 159.5 100
4160 159.64 100
4480 171.33 100
4760 177.83 100
5000 188.78 100
5320 192.14 100
5600 195.25 100
5800 199.39 100
6040 201.36 100
6200 202.64 78.8

Another MAF run
3760 37.39 18.4
3880 106.53 78
4080 169.69 99.6
4320 160.81 100
4600 176.22 100
4960 182.53 100
5200 192.86 100
5440 198.42 100
5680 197.03 100
5880 201.67 100
6120 199.39 100
6320 203.94 100
6480 203.64 99.6


Inlet Temp (004) 2'C Ambient temp
3080 14.14 81 12
3160 14.07 81 12
3280 14.14 81 12
3480 14 81 12
3760 14.07 81 12
3960 14.14 81 12
4120 13.93 81 12
4320 14.14 81 12
4480 14.14 81 12
4680 14.14 81 12
4840 14.14 81 12
5080 14.14 81 12
5280 14.21 81 13
5400 14.21 81 14
5600 14.14 81 14
5720 14.07 81 15
5880 14.14 81 15
6000 14.14 81 15
6120 14 81 17
6200 14.14 81 17

I have noticed very little difference with timing pull (020) so not posted anything, still see the odd 6 on long 4th gear runs

 

[-pseudonymous-]

Hi guys. Sorry to butt in but im in need of your help!!! for sum reason my mk3 cupra running stage1 revo seems a lot less menacing in recent weeks. Ive done various logs on VagCom and come up with the following results:

Block 115
Rpm Requested Actual

2360 1010 1010
2400 1010 1010
2080 1850 1430
2440 2000 1850
2840 2090 2130
3280 2160 2120
3760 2180 2140
4160 2140 2100
4600 2020 2000
4960 1920 1940
5320 1830 1850
5720 1750 1770
6000 1690 1730
6240 1630 1680


Block 118 (N75)
Rpm Temp Load %

2400 24 0
2440 24 0
2160 18 95.3
2560 18 81.2
3000 18 77.6
3400 19 78.8
3880 21 80
4320 24 80.8
4720 27 83.5
5120 32 84.3
5480 35 85.9
5800 37 85.9
6120 39 85.1
6360 42 78.8

Block 030 (MAF)
rpm g/s

3120 96.19
3280 105.11
3400 106.25
3600 117.03
3800 124
3960 126.33
4080 132.42
4200 131.75
4400 137.67
4560 142.11
4680 141.89
4760 145.42
4880 147.22
5000 148.44
5120 149.08
5200 149.42
5320 149.31
5400 147.25
5560 146.89
5600 146.36
5720 145.83
5760 147.33
5840 146.89
5920 147.42
6000 148.42
5960 13.81

MAF readings seems to be ok but boost looks to be reading low and seems to drop right off. Initially i thought faulty N75 valve or boost leak but im just not sure?

p.s im new to all this an still learning so sorry for sounding dumb
Thanks in advance!

 

[Jay]

MAF readings seems to be ok but boost looks to be reading low and seems to drop right off. Initially i thought faulty N75 valve or boost leak but im just not sure?

boost is ok, actual values match requested ones (better than that it's higher @top end) .

induction temperature is not too high and regarding maf values if you only have revo stage1 and no dp/high flow cat i think it's ok (it may be over 150g/s but i'm not sure).

 

[-pseudonymous-]

Thanks for the reply Jay. Im just running a Miltek cat-back system with standard smic. Im just a bit confused as to why its not holding the boost as well as it used to. Always used to peak at around 21 psi then drop bk to about 17psi. Although im still running the standard intercooler i dont think heat sink is really an issue. I logged block 030 in vagcom and the CF values were all showing "0" throughout the range on all four cylinders.

Any other ideas anyone?

 

[m0rk]

ollie - looks good to me at a glance, gets to peak airflow, then holds it.

 

[Madmile]

Just a thought to make the requested torque in warmer conditions the turbo has to work harder so more boost is required. With the very cold conditions is the turbo not having to pump as much air to make the same torque. In summer i could push my boost upto 23-25psi on a max setting now i can only get 22psi on the max setting. Maybe i have a boost leak, but on my max setting i am spiking at 22psi and holding 19psi up top. With a boost leak i dont think i could hold that kind of boost pressure at the redline. Once its on at awesome i will know more if it does not make over 300whp i know theres a prob.

 

[-pseudonymous-]

Thanks Mork. Those logs were done LB9 T3 on 95RON fuel. Topped her up with optimax this morning and done some more logs with timing set at HB5 T5.


Block 115
RPM Req Act
2760 2230 1580
3280 2360 2300
3880 2380 2290
4400 2270 2150
4960 2070 1930
5400 1940 1830
5720 1850 1750
6080 1780 1660


Block 118
RPM °C %
2960 23 95.3
3440 21 84.3
4040 24 90.6
4600 27 95.3
5080 32 95.3
5520 36 95.3
5880 39 95.3
6200 41 92.2


Block 003
RPM G/s
2840 86.61
3320 117.86
3720 126.47
4120 135.78
4520 142.31
4920 147.81
5160 146.86
5400 146.39
5640 145.64
5840 145.86
6000 145.11


Block 020
CF CF CF CF
0 0 0 0
3 0 0 0
3 0 0 0
2.3 0 0 0
0.8 0 0 0
0.8 0 0 0
0.8 0 0 0
0.8 0 0 0

From what ive logged today all seems well. From what i understand the most i should see the CF levels at on block 020 is 3. Is this correct?

Sorry for the long post and thanks agen

 

[Jay]

Just a thought to make the requested torque in warmer conditions the turbo has to work harder so more boost is required. With the very cold conditions is the turbo not having to pump as much air to make the same torque. In summer i could push my boost upto 23-25psi on a max setting now i can only get 22psi on the max setting. Maybe i have a boost leak, but on my max setting i am spiking at 22psi and holding 19psi up top. With a boost leak i dont think i could hold that kind of boost pressure at the redline. Once its on at awesome i will know more if it does not make over 300whp i know there a prob.

i agree with that, when temperature is lower the delivered pressure don't need to be the same to flow the same air mass

Block 115
RPM Req Act
4960 2070 1930
5400 1940 1830
5720 1850 1750
6080 1780 1660


Block 118
5080 32 95.3
5520 36 95.3
5880 39 95.3
6200 41 92.2

your car seems to react like mine when using HB5 setting, the requested pressure is higher but the delivered stay around same values as LB9 and maf values don't grow , quite strange

From what ive logged today all seems well. From what i understand the most i should see the CF levels at on block 020 is 3. Is this correct?

yes you should try to keep the CF under 3, your CF values are good you can read the SPS3/Data Logging User Guide to have more informations