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Leon flip Key guide

Discussion in 'Mk1 Leon Guides (1M) 2000-2006' started by stevie steve, Mar 3, 2009.

  1. stevie steve

    stevie steve Active Member

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    After searching and looking through a lot of threads on here, I thought I would sum it all up and do a flip key step by step guide for the Leon.

    One of the first things I will say is that (for me anyway) I paid no attention to the frequencys on the key. Just making sure that I brought a Hella version.

    My leon Key is as you can see a 433 Mhz key and he one I brought from ebay was a 434 Mhz key and works the same
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    I brought the replacement key from ebay from autopartcentre the item I brought had this in the title VW VOLKSWAGEN GOLF MK4 BORA REMOTE FLIP KEY FOB as the link will expire
    As he states it comes with a blank keyblade.

    Reprogram new remote.
    Hopefully you will have 2 keys - both with transponders in. I used 2 keys to do this.
    1. Switch Ignition ON and leave keyONE in the ignition.
    2. Mechanically lock the vehicle using the Drivers door using keyTWO
    3. Using the remote control(flip key)
    press the UNLOCK button once, and the horn will sound once. (mine didnt)
    4. Wait 6 seconds and press the UNLOCK button again to activate the coding procedure
    and the horn will sound once.
    The remote control will now be programmed. Happy days :funk::funk:

    Now the blade swap
    Prize apart old (remote in my case) key and remove transponder, little glass tube.
    DO NOT LOSE as this is whats needed for the door/ignition in the new key.
    The transponder in mine was lose, some maybe glued in, Meths/Nail varnish remover will soften this glue.

    Prize open the flip key with a large flat bladed screwdriver here
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    The Blade of the flip key needs to be removed undoing the screw which has sneakily been hidden under a VW/Skoda badge. Badge can be prized out with a smallish flat blade screw driver. No need to worry about the old badge ehhh ;)
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    With the screw CAREFULLY removed, inside will reveal all. The silver button which you press, spring to create the flip and the blade itself and of course a old transponder. Throw away this as it is of no real use.

    Insert your old transponder from seat key. No need to glue as its held in place from the other side of the key.

    Get the blank blade cut. I know that Timpsons do this and these are pretty much everywhere. The new blank blade doesn't come attached to its swivel, so get Timpsons to knock out the pin of the old blade, and put your new cut blade onto the silver hinge piece.

    Line up the 3 locators. It should only go in one way. Insert the spring so the bit that sticks out from the spring is at the top. Twist spring, so it engages inside the button.
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    You have to reload the spring so that it flips open. To do this insert other side of key from above, onto the key hinge. The rotate, counter clockwise once.
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    Hold together and rescrew the key back together. Popping the other end with remote and key loop back onto your new key.

    Get on the web (fleabay) and search for a Leon flip key badge or something.

    There we go job done. Remember the frequesncy (for me) was irrelevant

    Hope this helps someone. [B)]
     
  2. lc_allan

    lc_allan Northern Monkey

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    I think there is a few guides or threads with loads of info but they do drop down the pages over time.
    Nice write up anyway. Maybe the mods can put this in the FAQ section but this isn't strickly Leon specific.
     
  3. LEE69

    LEE69 Stage 2 Revo'd

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    The blade can be removed by pressing out the roll pin when the key is opened and the blade is 90 deg to the fob.
     
  4. stevie steve

    stevie steve Active Member

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    I know theres a few guides lying around, but wanted to try and get what I did on one post. Most of my info came from a ibiza post, so yeah it could easily apply to rest of the Seat range.

    Yeah I got it out with a drawing pin, but thought while I was in there he could do it for me lol. Didnt want to loose the pin to be honest
     
  5. jet-black

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    Ive just bought a Leon but it only had the non flip key. I need to get another does it matter if i get a 2 or 3 button flip key?

    Cheers
     
  6. ben652

    ben652 Active Member

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    i only have two keys one remote and the other is just a key so if i just put the transponder out of the remote one into the vw flip key it will work or does it still need coding i no it might sound a bit thick but i am new to this thanks for any hep
     
  7. LEE69

    LEE69 Stage 2 Revo'd

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    The remote will need pairing to the car, the transponder shouldn't.
     
  8. LEE69

    LEE69 Stage 2 Revo'd

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  9. ChrisUK

    ChrisUK Eat My Smoke

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    My transponder was glued in a LOT !

    I had to heat up a knife & melt my key to get it out lol.

    Works a charm though & only cost about £15 to do (£12.50 for key, £2.50 to cut the blade)
     
  10. Seat Gooner

    Seat Gooner A.K.A Mark

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    "stevie steve" nice write up mate :clap:
     
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    what if i only have one key
     
  12. Cupra Ross

    Cupra Ross Breaks things............

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    You simply buy a new transponder from here: http://www.hickleys.com/diagnostics/keys_list.php?manu=40

    Its the "AKTP2" one at £3 for the Leon.

    Assuming you have your cars SKC code, you then get a mate with VAG-COM to sync the new immobiliser transponder with your car using this guide: http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/cars/key-matching-4digit.html

    If you don't know your SKC, you'll need to get the new key synchronised by a SEAT dealer or if you know anybody with VAG-TACHO (like me :D) they may be able to plug in and find out what the SKC is but this doesn't always work.
     
  13. slim20vt

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    when you say use the flip key to unlock the car by pressing unlock button do you mean the new key remote?

    let me make myself clear,i put the standard non remote key in the ignition and turn it on!!

    then i take the old remote that still works,(in my case) then lock the drivers door with the key remote but not pushing the lock button,turn key in lock instead!!

    ok car then locks...


    then do i press the new remote im programming to unlock the car? unlock once then,wait 6 seconds them press unlock on the new remote again to programme?

    is this rite?

    i have already had the new blank key blade cut and fitted to my replacement remote..
     
  14. ali831

    ali831 Active Member

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    have phoned a couple of stealers for a quote to supply a second 3 button flip key so hubby and i have got one each. The price includes supply, programming and VAT. The quotes ranged from £140 to £173........ almost fell through the floor!!!! Might have a go at doing it myself !
     
  15. slim20vt

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    ok did what you said and the remote works, didnt beep the horn tho
    it set the alarm off twice then worked...

    only prob is the key cutter made a shi*t job of cutting the spare blade and it wont turn on the ignition now?????????????????//
    or lock the doors,any ideas?
     
  16. moshii

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    Alright, had my key cut from Timpsons (£10 to get cut, but if there is any problems then it'll be covered :)). Just did this guide as I was going to pay £30 for a local car electrics place to program, and thought it couldn't do any hard.

    The new key works fine, opens and locks the car, and starts the car. However, when I turn the ignition on (so the car is running) the light on the dash under the engine management light, which appears to be the Electronic Immobiliser continually flashes, which according to the owners manual shouldn't allow the car to start.

    Have I done something wrong? I really don't want to be driving with this and the engine cut out or something.
     
  17. Cupra Ross

    Cupra Ross Breaks things............

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    Did you use the transponder from your old key? This is not the remote transmitter, its like a tiny little glass bulb.
     
  18. slim20vt

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    my remote is working fine,with lcr wont start cause they cut the blade wrong,

    i used the transponder in the 2nd hand remote i bort when i programmed im hoping when they sort the key blade out all will be fine,and car will start as well as unlock??????????????????????????????????????????????????????/
     
  19. moshii

    moshii Active Member

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    When I got the car I only had one key, so I bought a second flip key from eBay, then I bought a replacement blade which I got cut the other day.

    Will the second key need a new transponder? I was under the impression that the one that is already in it would be able to be re-programmed to my car?
     
  20. slim20vt

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    thats what i fort mate same for me...........

    mine was from ebay i programmed it to the lcr today,and it locks and unlocks all doors, so im sure reprogramming it with the 2nd hand transponder shouild be fine

    because when my old mk4 golf gti remote broke it wouldnt lock the doors but you could still drive the car!!! vw told me that was the transponder packing up????!!!!!!!!!!!
     

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