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Leon/Toledo HID Headlamp Guide/FAQ

Discussion in 'Mk1 Leon FAQ's (1M) 2000-2006' started by Nathanio, Nov 21, 2006.

  1. Nathanio

    Nathanio Full Member

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    After a little chat with m0rk about the number of HID related enquiries recently it has been agreed to create a single resource on the subject. I will start it off and get as much as I can think about down and then help will be needed :p

    Here we go

    Leon/Toledo HID Guide/FAQ

    What are HIDs?

    (source: Hids4U.co.uk website)


    What do the colours relate to?

    All HID kits come in a variety of colours ranging from 4300k to 12000k which describes the light (white ---> purple). A Kelvin is a measurement of thermodynamic temperature and is the colour.

    Standard OEM units are 4300k and get their blue from the projector (it refractes through the prism) but generally for aftermarket units in the standard OEM Seat HU the 6000k unit is recommended


    Are they legal

    Common question and one that has no definite answers. If a Car comes with HIDs as standard have to have self levelling suspension and HU washers which obviously you can't do to your Leon/Toledo.

    So as it stands cars are passing MOTs left right and center with them fitted. Autobulbsdirect has this on their website:

    I have not had a problem with mine at all I have been at the front of two police road blocks for an accident and millwall supporters and nothing was said (although the reflective strips looked awesome illuminated!) and they was traffic cops there too.

    Make of it as you will and it is a grey area for aftermarket units.


    Are HIDs really that much better?

    Pictures speak a thousand words ;)

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    This is on my own car - HIDs in Dipped and Osram SilverStars (Best halogen bulbs available) in the mains. Yellow tint versus clear white light.

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    Again see how well defined the road signs are and how well the road is illuminated


    If I choose to go with HIDs what kit do I need?

    Well standard bulbs sizes! Dipped is H7s and Mains are H1. Personally I have got just dipped as 9/10 I don't need to switch to mains as the light is that much better! You can have both done but you will need two ballasts etc for the system. Personally I would try dips first and see how you get on.

    I would recommend a kit from Hids4U (2yr warranty, good quality product and personal service) and would get the reduced length set just to make sure that the bulb doesn't hit the glare guard.


    Are they easy to fit?

    Dead easy! It took me about 45minutes (30 for first side and 15mins second side!) and I am no mechanic! It's all pretty self explanatory once you see the kit. Just make sure you have a drill and a 25mm screw bit (wood spade bit prob do fine). Always always test the kit before you install it so you don't have to take them apart if there is a fault!

    Once you have installed them though I would suggest a trip to your local garage to check your head light alignment in case you knocked it out in install.


    Maintenance....is there any?

    Well no there shouldn't be any major problems due to the therotical life time use with no failures. However you will need to make sure you clean your headlight lenses to make sure they are free from dirt that could possibly freact the light and cause issues to oncoming drivers.


    Pictures!

    Think thats everything and here's the interesting bits!

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    Any more info, please PM me add it here and i'll add it in.

    Cheers
     
    #1 Nathanio, Nov 21, 2006
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  2. Nathanio

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    Pulled from another post - Thanks Adrian
     
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    [​IMG]

    Cheers UncleFester - as you can see HIDs left - halogen right at night!
     
  4. Nathanio

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    Good point added by unclefester

    Also some pics from his HRV *sniggers* :p

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    Cheers fella
     
  5. Nathanio

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    Here is a very very useful tip for anyone with HIDs is to get the headlight alignment checked after you've installed them. Mine was only done yesterday at its service and mine were well out! Their now done and the look even better!
     
  6. CH1

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    Any more information on exactly where you located the ballasts especially on passenger side? I'm half way through mine (done drivers side) doing passenger side, thinking about cliiping it to the outside of black battery box.
    Been reading various bits on hids here in threads, agree fitting may only take 20 minutes after you've figured out where to locate the ballasts in Leon which is taking me a bit longer!
     
  7. Feel

    Feel Veedubya 'velle

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    :lol: Took me a while to figure out where to put them. My passenger's side one is on the battery box top right-hand-side looking from the front, on the wing facing side.
     
  8. Nathanio

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    Unclip the battery box cover and there is a small shelf in front of the battery that the ballast literally just sits in.
     
  9. Nathanio

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    Scabbed from another post. These are the bulbs you need:

    Dipped beam = 12v 55w, H7
    Main beam = 12 55w, H1
    Fog light = 12v 55w, H3
    Side light = 12v 5w, W5W
    Indicators = 12v 21w, PY21W
     
  10. UncleFester

    UncleFester Grumpier by the day!

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    Yup sits nicely under the back of the light unit. On the drivers side, there is a nice little bolt hole in the bracket just inside the wing to the left of the washer bottle - you can bolt it directly to that.
     
  11. J@mes

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    HID projector lamps...

    thank god for this sticky... i must get a pm AT LEAST once a week regarding my angel eye projectors and HID! :rolleyes:


    can i add... if you really love the look of the angel eye projector headlamps then IMHO they are utter crap at lighting up the road with normal halogen bulbs... they need HID in all honesty! :yes:


    but in order to fit the H7 HID bulbs you need to completely take the head lamps apart (the projector/angel eyes head lamps that is!) and drill the bulb holder/hole bigger so the fatter HID bulbs can fit into place!


    this is a lot of hassle and once done you then have to put it back together and reseal!



    A Lot of hassle and in hindsight i would have just HID'd the oe headlamps!



    right im glad thats of my chest! ;)
     
  12. CH1

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    Ok, finally fitted the hids on the Leon.

    Drivers side -no problem as can be seen ballast fitted next to wash bottle.

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    Passengers side was more of a problem as theres less space - we just wedged the ballast to the side of body panel next to battery as can be seen:-
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    Seems secure so far -its just been a day:)

    And this is the effect of HID V's halogen bulb at night (hid on left obviously:)
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    same shot (daylight)
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    I also fitted the Philips Blue vision sidelight bulbs..first pic is the std sidelight with hid

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    Philips Blue Vision sidelight fitted (have blue tip, though hardly much of an improvement especially compared with the white crisp light of hids, though look slightly less yellow)
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    overall opinion on Philips Blue Vision sidelights (ok as a freebie, but not worth a special purchase)

    Fitted the PowerPlus 50% more on the other car unfortunately no pic to compare with std halogen bulb

    http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a383/connoisseur_h/HIDs/DSCF0416_e.jpg
     
  13. Feel

    Feel Veedubya 'velle

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    For sidelights that match HIDs, I would recommend these

    Probably about twice the price of the others I've had (but not going to break the bank), but the others I've had have four separate LEDs and slowly one at a time the LEDs have gone. I've had three sets of that type.

    Had the ones above for a while, and they've been fine.
     
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  14. DamoR

    DamoR Smoked!!!!

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    Feel that link isn't working :(
     
  15. Feel

    Feel Veedubya 'velle

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    Wasn't when I first posted, but it is now.
     
  16. DamoR

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    They look like a perfect match buddy I think I will buy those.
     
  17. CH1

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    They look much whiter than the Philips Blue Vison Plus sidelights (which I got free from powerbulbs). If one of mine needed replacing I will get these but I wouldn't go to especially buy sidelight upgrades, not worth it IMHO. More than happy with my HIDs for now:)
     
  18. DamoR

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    I disagree I think for the price it is worth changing your sidelights they look awful next to the HIDs! Also ruins the look of the HIDs with that dim yellow light next to them!
     
  19. CH1

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    I didn't actually take a picture of the HID next to sidelight bulb -the first pic with hid shows only the standard sidelight bulb (which I replaced later). The next pic is only of the replaced sidelight bulb by itself (Philips Blue vision plus) for me the change wasn't significant but still better than standard as they're not so yellow. I haven't got any comparison shots of hid and Philips Blue vision or any other replaced bulb as I forgot to take them.
     
  20. Feel

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    And as if by magic, one of them has now packed up :(

    Get to see what their customer service is like then...
     

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