Hello All
One moment whilst I dust off my account!
I purchased a Golf TDI 130 back in august knowing that it was not running right and always going in to limp mode (you could hear the boost leaks). Turbo -> inlet manifold fully replaced excluding plastic pipe (2nd from inlet) but including intercooler – It was all knackered and needed replacing. But I’m still having another strange issue.
The Problem:
I never have full power in first gear, as soon as I hit boost the car stutters’ and feels like its trying to stall, with lots of black smoke out the back, if qucily change is to second its exactly the same. It does this in all gears, but not all the time, you can “feel” when its going to do it, mostly when going from < 1500 rpm upwards. If I’m driving enthusiastically, keeping revs high its seems to be OK but will eventually hit limp mode if I sustain a long pull in 3rd gear (2000 –> 4000 rpm) . It very hard to sum up in words.
What have I tried:
Turbo -> inlet manifold fully replaced (pipe work and intercooler)
N75 plumbed with all new hose directly to one way valve / vac feed (no vac reservoir) . N18 + N239 bypassed - EGR + Anti shudder still in situ – I have no EGR delete.
With car ticking over, vac line put straight on to VNT actuator, and it sees to move freely over and over again, so I don’t think its sticky vains, but more on that later.
Logs:
Car performing fine
Car stuttering, not power with lots of smoke.
As you can see from the logs I’m over boosting quite allot. So I thought this could be a number of things:
1) Stikky VNT vains, but as I said earlier they seems to move fine when directly connected to VAC.
2) Duff N75. I’m going to try the VAG Com N75 test tomorrow, anyone know what number is it? Is it on output tests?
3) Bad remap
So I’m always over boosting, even when the car is stuttering, so why is the car stuttering and puffing smoke, does the car sense the over boost and do something to try to stall the engine.
Questions :
1) How does the ECU determine fuelling, is it based on MAF + MAP?
2) Is fuelling logged under block 1? If so when stuttering fuelling seems to be the same?
3) There is no dump/reserc valve on these TDIs – Do they not have one?
4) What else could be causing it to stall?
Your thoughts and discussion are very welcome.
Nick
One moment whilst I dust off my account!
I purchased a Golf TDI 130 back in august knowing that it was not running right and always going in to limp mode (you could hear the boost leaks). Turbo -> inlet manifold fully replaced excluding plastic pipe (2nd from inlet) but including intercooler – It was all knackered and needed replacing. But I’m still having another strange issue.
The Problem:
I never have full power in first gear, as soon as I hit boost the car stutters’ and feels like its trying to stall, with lots of black smoke out the back, if qucily change is to second its exactly the same. It does this in all gears, but not all the time, you can “feel” when its going to do it, mostly when going from < 1500 rpm upwards. If I’m driving enthusiastically, keeping revs high its seems to be OK but will eventually hit limp mode if I sustain a long pull in 3rd gear (2000 –> 4000 rpm) . It very hard to sum up in words.
What have I tried:
Turbo -> inlet manifold fully replaced (pipe work and intercooler)
N75 plumbed with all new hose directly to one way valve / vac feed (no vac reservoir) . N18 + N239 bypassed - EGR + Anti shudder still in situ – I have no EGR delete.
With car ticking over, vac line put straight on to VNT actuator, and it sees to move freely over and over again, so I don’t think its sticky vains, but more on that later.
Logs:
Car performing fine
Code:
'001 '011
Engine speed Injected quantity Spec. Inj. duration Engine speed Spec. intake press. Actual intake press. D.cycle MAP
790-870 3.0-9.0 3-8 °Ck. 2850-3150 2200-2400 2100-2600 35-80%
/min mg/R CF /min mbar %
2247 16.2 6.1 2184 1356.6 1497.6 57.8
2436 34.3 11.2 2310 1377 1450.8 56.2
2940 51.1 19.9 2625 2346 2141.1 81.7
3507 49.1 21.4 3234 2346 2983.5 94.4
3990 46.9 22.4 3759 2346 2983.5 94.4
3003 42.5 16.8 3990 1091.4 2983.5 52.6
2856 51.1 19.9 2751 2346 2866.5 94.4
3087 50.5 20.4 2982 2346 2983.5 94.4
3297 49.7 20.9 3192 2346 2983.5 94.4
3507 49.1 21.4 3402 2346 2983.5 94.4
3675 48.3 21.9 3591 2346 2983.5 94.4
3864 47.5 21.9 3780 2346 2983.5 93.6
Car stuttering, not power with lots of smoke.
Code:
Engine speed Injected quantity Spec. Inj. duration Coolant temp Engine speed Spec. intake press. Actual intake press. D.cycle MAP
790-870 3.0-9.0 3-8 °Ck. 80-110°C 2850-3150 2200-2400 2100-2600 35-80%
/min mg/R CF °C /min mbar %
2142 54.1 18.9 85.5 2037 2325.6 2831.4 94.4
2268 53.3 19.9 85.5 2226 2335.8 2925 94.4
2436 51.3 19.9 85.5 2331 2346 2983.5 94.4
2541 51.9 20.9 85.5 2499 2346 2983.5 94.4
2814 51.3 17.9 85.5 2646 2346 2983.5 94.4
2079 0 0 85.5 2688 1387.2 2960.1 94.4
882 6 5.6 85.5 1218 999.6 1836.9 27.5
903 6 5.6 85.5 861 1071 1263.6 24.7
As you can see from the logs I’m over boosting quite allot. So I thought this could be a number of things:
1) Stikky VNT vains, but as I said earlier they seems to move fine when directly connected to VAC.
2) Duff N75. I’m going to try the VAG Com N75 test tomorrow, anyone know what number is it? Is it on output tests?
3) Bad remap
So I’m always over boosting, even when the car is stuttering, so why is the car stuttering and puffing smoke, does the car sense the over boost and do something to try to stall the engine.
Questions :
1) How does the ECU determine fuelling, is it based on MAF + MAP?
2) Is fuelling logged under block 1? If so when stuttering fuelling seems to be the same?
3) There is no dump/reserc valve on these TDIs – Do they not have one?
4) What else could be causing it to stall?
Your thoughts and discussion are very welcome.
Nick