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Updating the inbuilt Mib2 Satnav / Mib2 tricks and Mib1

Requin

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Works fine with Obdeleven on a mib2 high. I know at one point VCDS didn't work, it was an Obdeleven only thing. You need to check that with mib2 standard and version you have I reckon.
I am using a MIB2 standard (Navi System - 6P0) and use VCDS 17.8
 
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Requin

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Requin said on the topic: SW update for MIB2 infotainment system?
This is what i have done ! Maybe upper or lower case change something no ? I mean enter for example 634f or 634F ?
I am using a MIB2 standard (Navi System - 6P0) and use VCDS 17.8
Walone answer:
Use uppercase only. When you put the new code into VCDS make sure you have a space between 63 and 4F (63 4F) if this is the calculated result.
If you are using genuine VCDS lead then you should update your VCDS program to 18.2 but if it's fake lead it will kill the lead if you try to update.
Can you post a scan of your 5F module to show the errors?
 

Requin

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I will try to clear faults logs and hard reset unit first. Then i will enter the value on Uppercase and see if it is working or not (Yes i have a space between 63 and 4F).

Adresse 5F: Electr. d'informat. (J794) Labels:* 5F0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
No. pièce Log: 5QA 035 846 Mat: 5QA 035 846
Pièce: MU-S-N-ER H24 0241
No. de série: SEZAZ2R0274151
Codage: 04730301FF0A000011110001000808002F0301D401200100C6
No. Atelier: WSC 02391 785 00200
Jeu de données ASAM: EV_MUStd6C3TSAT 001015
ROD: EV_MUStd6C3TSAT_SE26.rod
VCID: 0108BD9890090B4E85-8054

Unité d'affichage et de commande 1 pour électronique d'info.:
Sous-système 1 - No. pièce Log: 5F0 919 604 A Mat: 5F0 919 604 A
Pièce: ABTm_Std2_Nav H43 1028
No. de série: SEZ8Z9RFT005XY

Support de données:
Sous-système 2 - No. pièce Log: 6P0 919 866 AB Mat: -----------
Pièce: ECE1 2018 --- 0915
No. de série: --------------------

1 Codes défaut trouvés:
2571 - Système de navigation
B126C F2 [008] - Base de données de navigation non validée
Intermittent - Confirmé - Testé depuis RàZ mémoire
Capture:
Etat du défaut: 00000001
Priorité du défaut: 6
Fréquence du défaut: 6
Compteur de RAZ: 190
Kilométrage: 55736 km
Date: 2018.09.26
Temps: 13:22:11

Tension borne 30: 12.5 V
 

Walone

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I will try to clear faults logs and hard reset unit first. Then i will enter the value on Uppercase and see if it is working or not (Yes i have a space between 63 and 4F).

Adresse 5F: Electr. d'informat. (J794) Labels:* 5F0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
No. pièce Log: 5QA 035 846 Mat: 5QA 035 846
Pièce: MU-S-N-ER H24 0241
No. de série: SEZAZ2R0274151
Codage: 04730301FF0A000011110001000808002F0301D401200100C6
No. Atelier: WSC 02391 785 00200
Jeu de données ASAM: EV_MUStd6C3TSAT 001015
ROD: EV_MUStd6C3TSAT_SE26.rod
VCID: 0108BD9890090B4E85-8054

Unité d'affichage et de commande 1 pour électronique d'info.:
Sous-système 1 - No. pièce Log: 5F0 919 604 A Mat: 5F0 919 604 A
Pièce: ABTm_Std2_Nav H43 1028
No. de série: SEZ8Z9RFT005XY

Support de données:
Sous-système 2 - No. pièce Log: 6P0 919 866 AB Mat: -----------
Pièce: ECE1 2018 --- 0915
No. de série: --------------------

1 Codes défaut trouvés:
2571 - Système de navigation
B126C F2 [008] - Base de données de navigation non validée
Intermittent - Confirmé - Testé depuis RàZ mémoire
Capture:
Etat du défaut: 00000001
Priorité du défaut: 6
Fréquence du défaut: 6
Compteur de RAZ: 190
Kilométrage: 55736 km
Date: 2018.09.26
Temps: 13:22:11
Tension borne 30: 12.5 V

I don't know French but it looks like it's saying the Navigation Database is not valid, which is nothing to do with having to use the Xor calculator.
 

leonlad

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I will try to clear faults logs and hard reset unit first. Then i will enter the value on Uppercase and see if it is working or not (Yes i have a space between 63 and 4F).

Adresse 5F: Electr. d'informat. (J794) Labels:* 5F0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
No. pièce Log: 5QA 035 846 Mat: 5QA 035 846
Pièce: MU-S-N-ER H24 0241
No. de série: SEZAZ2R0274151
Codage: 04730301FF0A000011110001000808002F0301D401200100C6
No. Atelier: WSC 02391 785 00200
Jeu de données ASAM: EV_MUStd6C3TSAT 001015
ROD: EV_MUStd6C3TSAT_SE26.rod
VCID: 0108BD9890090B4E85-8054

Unité d'affichage et de commande 1 pour électronique d'info.:
Sous-système 1 - No. pièce Log: 5F0 919 604 A Mat: 5F0 919 604 A
Pièce: ABTm_Std2_Nav H43 1028
No. de série: SEZ8Z9RFT005XY

Support de données:
Sous-système 2 - No. pièce Log: 6P0 919 866 AB Mat: -----------
Pièce: ECE1 2018 --- 0915
No. de série: --------------------

1 Codes défaut trouvés:
2571 - Système de navigation
B126C F2 [008] - Base de données de navigation non validée
Intermittent - Confirmé - Testé depuis RàZ mémoire
Capture:
Etat du défaut: 00000001
Priorité du défaut: 6
Fréquence du défaut: 6
Compteur de RAZ: 190
Kilométrage: 55736 km
Date: 2018.09.26
Temps: 13:22:11

Tension borne 30: 12.5 V
have you changed the coding of anything in vcds ? does the mib actually work with the map sd card ?
 

Requin

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Hi,

I have just updated the navigation version (430 to 915) through the website https://here.navigation.com/europe/fr by selecting SEAT Leon 2016 and download 915 version. But everything is working, navigation is working well, only i have an error on the 5F module (Navigation Database is not valid) due to the update. I try to delete it by the XOR method but still appears. By the way, everything is working, so i think, i will not investigate more time ... but see people succeeded to remove the smv fault, so i don't how it is not working for me.
 

Tell

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I wouldn't worry if it's working. Assume you had Mapcare and didn't do a workaround. Probably your dealer will clear the error next time they service it. I reckon alot of people who have done the SD card work around don't have VCDS tools and drive around with that error.
 

Walone

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Hi,
I have just updated the navigation version (430 to 915) through the website https://here.navigation.com/europe/fr by selecting SEAT Leon 2016 and download 915 version. But everything is working, navigation is working well, only i have an error on the 5F module (Navigation Database is not valid) due to the update. I try to delete it by the XOR method but still appears. By the way, everything is working, so i think, i will not investigate more time ... but see people succeeded to remove the smv fault, so i don't how it is not working for me.

Looking at your scan results above you don't have the SVM error!
This is what shows when you have SVM error.
Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794) Labels:| 5F0-035-MIB-HGH2.clb
Part No SW: 5F0 035 020 F HW: 5F0 035 020
Component: MU-H-ND-EU H42 1219
Serial number: A441F0J7568307
Coding: 04730301D70A000011111101008808002F0201D6012001005E
Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
ASAM Dataset: EV_MUHig6C1Gen2HBAS 001001
ROD: EV_MUHig6C1Gen2HBAS.rod
VCID: 1B6329F51329830F845-804E

Operating And Display Unit 1:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5F0 919 604 A HW: 5F0 919 604 A
Component: ABTm_Std2_Nav H43 1031
Serial number: SEZ8Z9RFT010M7

Data medium:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: V03 959 801 NQ HW: -----------
Component: ECE 2015/2016 --- 0122
Serial number: --------------------

Compact Disc Database:
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: V03 959 800 EG HW: -----------
Component: Gracenote2 --- 1011
Serial number: --------------------

1 Fault Found:
1555 - Check Software Version Management
B201A 00 [009] - -
[Check software version management]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 188
Mileage: 19869 km
Date: 2018.09.10
Time: 11:23:35

Voltage terminal 30: 11.8 V
Status_Software_Version_Management-module_name: MDUE406/DUE
 
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Requin

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I was thinking the method XOR was the same for the navigation and for the MIB update. I was wrong. Thanks for your comment.
 

John Young

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OK I have read this interesting thread and noticed one post said if you get the correct serial number you can get an SD Card Map update off ebay that will work OK is this right or did I read something wrong ?

My Map box has 6P0.919.866.H and is Version 3 - I saw a Version 5 on ebay with the code 6P0.919.866.R - would that work ?
 

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OK I have read this interesting thread and noticed one post said if you get the correct serial number you can get an SD Card Map update off ebay that will work OK is this right or did I read something wrong ?

My Map box has 6P0.919.866.H and is Version 3 - I saw a Version 5 on ebay with the code 6P0.919.866.R - would that work ?

That's a Mib2 so if your card is already working and you haven't got Mapcare you can do the workaround as documented on the thread. If you read from June this year. Just remember to back it up before you delete the contents just in case.

Post 1041 is the most recent detailed description of it. The earlier developers one of it has some steps in it that turned out to be not required but was part of understanding the process.
 
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OK I will read through again.... Just been looking on ebay again and I found these below

Would they just slot in ?
 

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Tell

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Let someone else answer since I have the Navi Plus. Whenever people try cards they get adverse results. There are upgrade cards which allow you to upgrade then only cards which are only meant for dealer installation via ODIS. People are happy to sell you those as well. Mapcare which isn't currently available on Seat UK sourced cars allows you to upgrade yourself which is far more sensible with a token initial price, like £120 which is now waved by VW and Skoda, but here in the UK Seat haven't budged an inch even thou they are selling cars with digital dashes with maps out of date... or will be.
 

John Young

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Its crap how they can get away with free updates in Europe but not here... Maybe need lots more pressure from us (customers)
 

Walone

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OK I will read through again.... Just been looking on ebay again and I found these below
Would they just slot in ?
If you already have a working SD nav card in your system then you do not need a card from eBay!
Just follow the procedure as mentioned by Tell. Just make sure you do a full backup of the original card!
Also I think you need to use a PC not a MAC.
 

John Young

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If you already have a working SD nav card in your system then you do not need a card from eBay!
Just follow the procedure as mentioned by Tell. Just make sure you do a full backup of the original card!
Also I think you need to use a PC not a MAC.


Yeah I was just thinking if might be less risky and more straight forward than messing with the original card. I don't mind paying £30 just not £140 or whatever it was


Also just wondered when I looked at the box the card came in from the garage its 2009 - my car is 2016 - Is that normal or have I been duped somehow