Oil...What to use in your TDI

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  1. Craig Senior

    Craig Senior I've been Tango'd

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    Had mine serviced last week at the dealers.

    Supplied my own oil, Millers XFE-PD, 5 litres for £17.68 + VAT. :thumbup:
     
  2. Moonlight

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    A quick question I have is: I have topped up my Cupra TDI with a castrol 506.01 approved oil as stated in the handbook but obviously dont know what the original oil in the car is. Is it ok to do this potentialy mix oil brands? (I though it would be ok as its just a small ammount).
     
  3. ChrisUK

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    I thought you shouldnt use 506.01 !!

    I was under the impression that 505.01 was the way to go ??
     
  4. Moonlight

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    See above? :confused:
     
  5. oilman

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    It will be fine to top up with in small amounts. Just keep it to the occasional top up though.

    Cheers

    Simon.
     
  6. Moonlight

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    Ok Thanks Simon. :)
     
  7. markmck

    markmck f!!#*** Computers

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    from my understanding


    506.1 PD synthetic
    505.1 non PD syn
     
  8. Craig Senior

    Craig Senior I've been Tango'd

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    Not according to post No. 1 of this thread or the bottle of oil in my boot.
     
  9. prc

    prc Sooty Meister

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    505.00 is the non PD (but could be synthetic or not)
    505.01 is PD (non variable servicing) all I've seen are synthetic based with some mineral parts. NOT SEMI-SYNTHETIC which is mineral based with some synthetic molecules.
    506.01 is PD synthetic for variable servicing.
     
  10. oilman

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    Just to save any confusion.

    Volkswagen Group Oil Specifications and their Applications

    VW 500.00
    This is an “old” oil specification and is applicable to engines built before model year 2000 (up to August 1999)
    Viscosity ratings: SAE 5w-40, 10w-40 or 20w-40
    This oil can be used in all petrol and some diesel engines, apart from those referred to under other specifications.

    VW 501.01
    This is another “old” oil specification with exactly the same application as
    VW 500.00.
    Viscosity ratings: SAE 10w-40, 15w-40 or 20w-40

    VW 502.00
    This oil can only be used in petrol engines and is recommended for those which are subject to arduous conditions. It must not be used for any engines with variable service intervals or any which are referred to under other specifications.
    Viscosity ratings: SAE 0w-40, 5w-40 or 10w-40

    VW 503.00
    This is a relatively new oil specification for petrol engines with variable service intervals. It includes the AUDI S4, but not the RS4, or the TT and S3 with outputs of more than 180bhp.
    Viscosity rating: SAE 0w-30

    VW 503.01
    A new oil specification specifically for the RS4, and the TT and S3 with outputs of more than 180bhp, Passat W8 and Phaeton W12.
    Viscosity rating: 0w-30

    VW 505.00
    For all diesel engines prior to model year 2000 (August 1999)
    Viscosity rating: 0w-40, 5w-40 or 10w-40

    VW 505.01
    For all diesel engines with unit injectors (Pumpe-Duse or PD) without variable service intervals.
    Viscosity rating: SAE 5w-40

    VW 506.00
    For all diesel engines except those with unit injectors, with variable service intervals.
    Viscosity rating: SAE 0w-30

    VW 506.01
    For all diesel engines, including those with unit injectors, with variable service intervals.
    Viscosity rating: SAE 0w-30

    Cheers

    Simon.
     
  11. Blandit

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    all these numbers have me completly confused :blink: :drool: :redface:

    i have a 53 1.9 110 TDI toledo...

    what oil do i use?
    i checked the manual and that donlt make sense either
     
  12. oilman

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    VAG cars can get a littl confusing when it comes to oil as they do every thing by codes.

    Have another look in the hand book and it will give you a list of codes, it will look a little like VW505.01

    Let me know what the code is and I will forward on to you some options.

    Cheers

    Guy.
     
  13. Blandit

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    it says:

    Diesel Engine:
    denomination Specification Comments
    A - Synthetic oil VW 505 01 dated after 1-97
    B - mineral oil VW 505 00 dated after 1-97
    a/b - Multi-grade oil ACEA B2 or B3 or even API CD/CF dated after 1-97

    on A - synthetic oil, it says:
    "Diesel engines that have fuel injection based on a fuel injector pump should ony use oil specification 505 01. avoid the use of any other oil type then VW505 01 for this engine.

    so whats mine, as a 53 110BHP Diesel Toledo :confused:
     
  14. markmck

    markmck f!!#*** Computers

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    If you have a PD Diesel engine then you can only use PD specific oil which meets the VW505.01 spec, if you do not have the PD engine then you can use any oil thatr meets the 505.00 spec, and there are plenty to choose from.

    Plenty to choose from on my site here http://www.opieoils.co.uk/lubricants.htm

    Drop me a mail for a price list.

    Cheers

    Simon.
     
  16. Blandit

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    thanks markmck...that helps.

    Oilman, problem was that i didnt know if i was PD no not.........oops :p

    Still thanks, whats your reccomentation for the 505.00
     
  17. oilman

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    On the 505.00 code you can go 10w-40 semi synthetic or 5w-40 full synthetic.

    The full synthetics are the quality option, I would look at the Motul 8100 excess 5w-40 as this is a good quality syntheitc.

    Cheers

    Simon.
     
  18. markmck

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    any prices??
     
  19. oilman

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    Sure,

    Drop me a mail to sales@opieoils.co.uk and I will forward on to you a full price list.

    Cheers

    Simon.
     
  20. Paul TDI

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    Found this 505.01 list on the Honest John site, just cut and pasted it. It supposedly came from a VW source.

    AD Parts AD SDI SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Addinol Addinol Light MV 0546 PD SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Agip Agip 7004 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Aral Aral Tronic 431 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Avia Avia Turbo CFE PD SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Bucher AG Motorex Profile V-XL SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Castrol Castrol 505 01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Castrol Castrol GTD 505 01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Cepsa Cepsa Star TDI synt SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Chevron Havoline 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Conqord ROLOIL 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    DEA DEA Ultec Diesel SYN SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    DEA DEA Viscobil ST SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Delek Israel Delkol IDI SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Denicol Motor Oils Denicol Pro Syn 4 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Elf Elf Excellium DID SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Esso Esso 505 01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Eurolub (Hunold) Eurolub Synt PDI SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    FL Italia Pulsar Progress SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    FL Italia Selenia Performer SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Fuchs Fuchs Motorenoel G052 167 02 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Fuchs Labo Syntha High Tech Synthese SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Fuchs Motorenoel G 052 167 02 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Fuchs Titan Supersyn SL-F SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Ginouves York 742 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Hunold Hunold Synt PDI SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Igol Igol Process 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Kuttenkeuler Sorotec Pdi SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Kuwait Petroleum Q8 Motoroil 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Liqui Moly Liqui Moly Diesel High Tech SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Liqui Moly Liqui Moly Diesel High Tech SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Meguin megol Motorenoel Super Leichtlauf Technology SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Millers Oils Millers XFE-PD SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Mobil Mobil Syst S Special V SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Mobil Mobil TD SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Molyslide Molyslide Formula L2 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Motul Motul 6100 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Oest Mineralölwerk Oest Leichtlauföl 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    PAZ Champion Oil 50501 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Pentosin Pentosynth 5W-40 TS* SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Petrogal Galp Formula 505 Extra SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb Ravenol VPD SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Repsol Repsol Elite 505.01 TDI SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Rowe Rowe Synth PD SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Shell Shell 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Slovnaft Madit 505 01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Sonol Sonol Synt 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Statoil Statoil Superway SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Sun Oil Sunoco Ultra semi synth. SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Suomen Petrooli OY Teboil Diamond SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    SWD swd Primus Synth. SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Tamoil Sint Future Extra SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    TD Lubrifiants AVIA TDi 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Teboil Teboil Diamond Diesel SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Total Total Quartz 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Unil Opal Unil Opal Opaljet 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Valvoline Diesel Turbo motot oil SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Valvoline High Performance Diesel motor oil SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Valvoline Valvoline Diesel Turbo Motor Oil SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Valvoline Valvoline High Performance Diesel Motor Oil SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Vaps Vapsoil PD 540 Spezial SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Veedol Veedol 505 01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Westfalen AG Westfalen Megatron SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Wolf Wolf Masterlube Synflow PI SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Würth Würth Triathlon Special PD SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Yacco Yacco Spéciale SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Yacco Yacco VX 505 Diesel SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
    Zeller+Gmelin Divinol Syntholight 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501

    Variable Service 506.01

    Aral Aral SuperTronic LongLife II SAE 0W-30 50300/50600/50601
    BP BP Visco 7000 LongLife II SAE 0W-30 50300/50600/50601
    Castrol Castrol SLX LongLife II SAE 0W-30 50300/50600/50601
    Veedol Veedol Syntron LongLife II SAE 0W-30 50300/50600/50601
     
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