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Opps.. dont need rods on bigger turbos? Think again

Discussion in 'Badger5' started by ibizacupra, Dec 12, 2011.

  1. Damoegan

    Damoegan Sir Bob,a geordy legend..

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    55g/s gains, thats great work Bill :thumbup:
     
  2. caney

    caney Full Member

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    Hardly any timing pull as well Bill:D
     
  3. wild willy

    wild willy Full Member

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    Fantastic to see the large bore Tip principle doing the business for other cars too. Well done. Its amazing to appreciate how important the air intake tract is in providing overall power and efficency. its often an area thats sadly overlooked. It appears that poor air flow contributed to its initial Rod bending since the original tuner obviously upped the boost to compensate for poor flow. The rods would probably still be OK if it was run as it is now.
     
  4. ibizacupra

    ibizacupra Jack-RIP my little Friend
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    this was a rough and ready adjusted map to eliminate the 2bar daft boost... fueling is miles off, pig rich, and not touched timing..
    working on this today/tonight to complete it.

    turbos with decent flow need their inlet air supply to be abundant... simples.
     
  5. ibizacupra

    ibizacupra Jack-RIP my little Friend
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    thats my guess also..
    it was'nt making "ihi power" before on regular safe boost, and perhaps was cranked up to just tip 300bhp mark, but that was plain ill advised for so many reasons.... one of which we have seen the consequence of @ the customers cost. :(
     
  6. m0rk

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    What's the customers thoughts on this? Or was he not the original 'buyer' of the conversion
     
  7. CupraMuscle

    CupraMuscle Active Member

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    Hi Mork

    It's my car and to be honest I feel like I've been taken for a ride! The conversion was done 2 years ago and it was done by the company that had done all previous work on my car. Had no probs with anything they'd done up to that point and so I thought i'd take it back to them for BT treatment.

    I knew the boost was high at the time, didn't know it would be as detrimental as it was. Maybe that showed my lack of knowledge, but you learn a lot in 2 years. You also expect that a 'tuning' company who claims to know what they're doing, does just that....knows what they're doing! As for the intake pipe, I had no idea about that until Bill told me. I was told it would be replaced with one for the IHI. To make matters worse, I had a forge k03 tip on the car when it was done, so all they did was take my one off and replace it with one of a different colour!*
    Maybe that was my naivety...to expect that the company that I was paying a lot of money to work on my car, would have my best interests at heart and do what they had said they'd do. I personally don't think that is unreasonable. You ask for a big mac in mcdonalds, you don't expect them to serve you fish and chips. You expect to get what you paid for.

    But every cloud has a silver lining as they say cos now it's in Bill's capable hands and I have to say I have never met anyone as genuine, honest and trustworthy as Bill. And now I'll get my car back better than ever. I look forward to picking her up tomorrow! :D

    Marc.
     
  8. Dan1720v

    Dan1720v Active Member

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    Are said company still trading?
     
  9. CupraMuscle

    CupraMuscle Active Member

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    Yes mate. They were a sponsor on here too.
     
  10. LEE69

    LEE69 Stage 2 Revo'd

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    Not rocket science then
     
  11. james.l

    james.l GT3071r LCR

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    definatly not.
     
  12. seatcupramad23

    seatcupramad23 kc4even23

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    no but it states "were" not "are"
     
  13. james.l

    james.l GT3071r LCR

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    sorry, my bad
     
  14. PhilW

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    Its not a witch hunt people, the work was done badly, Bill is sorting it out so lets not start pointing fingers here and keep on topic.


    Damn i sound like a moderator. lol.
     
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  15. james.l

    james.l GT3071r LCR

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    "pointing figures"???

    :D:lol:

    Only joking
     
  16. seatcupramad23

    seatcupramad23 kc4even23

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    :lol: you do indeed just want to no to avoid
     
  17. PhilW

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    I dont know what you mean.... :lol: :rolleyes:
     
  18. Mark300zx

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    Mr. Muscle did you head south of TW to get the work done?
     
  19. ibizacupra

    ibizacupra Jack-RIP my little Friend
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    if we can keep the "other company" names off this thread that would be great guys.. many thanks.

    this is about fixing the car, and what will happen to 20mm rods.. when you push them too much..

    on the mend now.
    typing this whilst still mapping it... doh!
     
  20. ibizacupra

    ibizacupra Jack-RIP my little Friend
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    a quick note as to the logged airflows on the "previous" as it drove in on map.. The actual g/s reported is completely wrong due to the scaling applied in their software being for a larger maf..
    Bolt on difference from the 3" TIP however is a relative gain.. but ignore the absolute numbers... they will be gibberish with the oversized maf scaling in their software. (now replaced by 80mm maf scaling for its 80mm maf)

    Forge fmic is not suitable for ihi flows also.... bottle necks. Bigger, better flowing fmic would benefit this car.
     

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