Revo Stage 2 Logs

[DPJ]

and if you had no ignition timing to go with all this boost what do you think would be the result?

Bill,
you've missed off the multiple choice a) b) c) d) from your post.....

c?


But seriously, have you any thoughts on why my car doesn't perform on the rollers? It looks like the good old Badger supplied parts are all doing fine...............

 

[DPJ]

Now here's a thing...............

In a Lou (Little Britain) voice...
"Now you know you shouldn't be logging block 120...."

Well I was for torque, before I found out that remaps made the readings false so that you couldn't derive torque from them. Nevertheless, I would expect the readings for a particular car to be constant/ comparable over time. Here's a plot of mine from Nov, Jan and Feb logs. You will see that BHP (MAF really) is relatively constant (two different MAFs too!!) whereas 'torque' isn't - it's all over the place.

As bhp is really derived from torque, are these plots illustrating my problem?

 

[DPJ]

Plugs inspected and perfect.............

So my SPS3 arrives tomorrow.

There seem to have been a lot of comment in this thread that the logs suggest my car is running fine. The thing that's bugging me is that I have no idea what it's settings are at the moment (SPS3 wise) so any tinkering could put me in a worse position than I am at the moment. I would then not be able to return the car to it's current state......

Any thoughts?

 

[GaryM]

i have already seen 160+ on cars with k03

and i hope a k03s can do better than 170g/s

Again, not Revo but very similar - My MAF Log, Boost Log

I've seen over 190g/s on some days but Wilko's explanation a few posts ago explains why readings can be up and down.
I consistantly see 185-188g/s though.

FWIW I ran a 60-100 in 7.44 seconds with my old Revo 4bar software - Clicky

 

[DPJ]

Again, not Revo but very similar - My MAF Log, Boost Log

I've seen over 190g/s on some days but Wilko's explanation a few posts ago explains why readings can be up and down.
I consistantly see 185-188g/s though.

FWIW I ran a 60-100 in 7.44 seconds with my old Revo 4bar software - Clicky

Impressive, Gary!

was the 60-100 section all in 4th?

 

[GaryM]

The 0-100 (60-100) log was through the gears, obviously from a standing start.
That was the best run from 5 or 6 I did at the time and probably one of the most perfect starts I'll ever manage!!

60-100's in 4th gear (I have a 6speed box) were around the 7.8 - 8 second mark IIRC (Revo 4bar) and pretty much the same now (Custom-Code).
Will do some more when I get chance.

 

[ibizacupra]

those air mass levels are extremely high.. I would be very happy seeing those airlfows from a K03s..

 

[GaryM]

those air mass levels are extremely high.. I would be very happy seeing those airlfows from a K03s..

Probably why mine was in touching distance of remapped LCR's at the Awesome SCN RR day

 

[Jay]

Again, not Revo but very similar - My MAF Log, Boost Log

I've seen over 190g/s on some days but Wilko's explanation a few posts ago explains why readings can be up and down.
I consistantly see 185-188g/s though.

this are good maf values

but the difference between requested and actual boost beyond 4700 rpm is strange

 

[GaryM]

Its just the way that James (JBS) wrote the map, I personally think he should have set the requested to follow the trend of the turbo's capabilities (actual) and not how it is.

There's not a chance in hell that actual will hit requested beyond 4700rpm.

 

[ibizacupra]

Probably why mine was in touching distance of remapped LCR's at the Awesome SCN RR day

There's more to the power than K03s alone... VVT engine seems to be a factor also.
Wondering by how much this means tho.

 

[DPJ]

Plugs inspected and perfect.............

So my SPS3 arrives tomorrow.

There seem to have been a lot of comment in this thread that the logs suggest my car is running fine. The thing that's bugging me is that I have no idea what it's settings are at the moment (SPS3 wise) so any tinkering could put me in a worse position than I am at the moment. I would then not be able to return the car to it's current state......

Any thoughts?

Sorry to repeat myself, but hey, it's my thread!

Anyone?

 

[Martyn]

Dave, you'll need to lower your timing a bit anyway so you might as well start low and work up. Logging in between 'clicks'.....

 

[ALEX**]

Dave where are u based?

i still theinkthe best way to tell is to drive another remapped cupra or drive same gear side by side on a track.

if ur close ur welcome to pop over when mine is well again.

 

[DPJ]

Thanks for the offer, Alex.

Unfortunately, I'm North North Yorkshire.

 

[ALEX**]

Thats a bit of a trek hehe

 

[DPJ]

I'm going to do some 60-100 runs to establish a figure to compare ahainst.

 

[Wilko]

Dave
My guess is you're in boost 6 or 7 (lb9-hb3), and timing 6 or 7.
Do a log, tweak boost to boost 7, and see if your peak bost goes up.
With timing, start at timing 5, and work up at a time logging block 20, untill you see 6 max CF

 

[DPJ]

Thanks John, much appreciated! I'll do that.

 

[DPJ]

Boost 7 Timing 5 (Yes - I think it was on Boost 6)

*External Temp 6 degrees C*

Group A:	'115			Group B:	'020	
Engine Speed	Spec. Boost	Actual Boost	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization
700-6800 RPM	990-1800 mbar	<=1800 mbar				
 /min	 mbar	 mbar	 CF	 CF	 CF	 CF
1600	1290	1090	0	0	0	0
1760	1300	1180	0	0	0	0
1920	1340	1250	0	0	0	0
2120	1340	1380	0	0	0	0
2360	2260	1550	0	0	0	3
2640	2380	2020	0	3	3	3
2960	2480	2530	0	3	3	2.3
3320	2370	2370	0	2.3	3	2.3
3600	2320	2340	0	1.5	1.5	2.3
3920	2360	2340	0	0.8	0.8	1.5
4240	2340	2350	0	0	0	0
4560	2310	2310	0	0	0	0
4800	2290	2250	0	0	0	0
5080	2260	2140	0	0	0	0
5320	2230	2090	0	0	0	0
5520	2180	2050	0	0	0	0
5760	2110	1980	0	0	0	0
5960	2040	1930	0	0	0	0
6160	2040	1880	0	0	0	0
6320	2020	1850	0	0	0	0
6480	2020	1850	0	0	0	0
6600	2030	1860	0	0	0	0
6440	960	1600	0	0	0	0

Boost 7 Timing 6

Group A:	'115		Group B:	'020		
Engine Speed	Spec. Boost	Actual Boost	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization		
700-6800 RPM	990-1800 mbar	<=1800 mbar				
 /min	 mbar	 mbar	 CF	 CF	 CF	 CF
1560	1250	1030	0	0	0	0
1680	1280	1130	0	0	0	0
1800	1320	1210	0	0	0	0
2000	2120	1340	0	3	3	3
2280	2200	1610	0	3	3	3
2560	2330	2000	0	3	[B]6	5.3[/B]
2800	2420	2440	0	2.3	[B]6	5.3[/B]
3160	2440	2410	0	2.3	[B]5.3	5.3[/B]
3440	2340	2370	0	2.3	[B]5.3	4.5[/B]
3760	2350	2350	0	1.5	[B]5.3	4.5[/B]
4080	2360	2360	0	1.5	[B]4.5	3.8[/B]
4360	2330	2360	0	1.5	[B]4.5	3.8[/B]
4720	2300	2270	0	0.8	3.8	3.8
5000	2270	2190	0	0.8	3.8	3
5240	2230	2140	0	0.8	3.8	3
5480	2190	2070	0	0	3	2.3
5720	2130	1990	0	0	3	2.3
5920	2070	1960	0	0	2.3	2.3
6120	2030	1910	0	0	2.3	1.5
6240	2030	1880	0	0	2.3	1.5
6400	2030	1870	0	0	1.5	1.5
6520	2010	1830	0	0	1.5	0.8
6680	2020	1840	0	0	1.5	0.8
6800	1950	1840	0	0	0.8	0.8

Boost 6 timing 7 to try next.