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The Royal Electric Car Feckup

Discussion in 'SEAT brand general discussion' started by Mr Pig, Feb 9, 2020.

  1. Mr Pig

    Mr Pig Active Member

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    I'm assuming the world and his dog know by now that the government have announced that from 2035 the sale of diesel, petrol and even hybrid cars will be banned. Only electric cars from then on. Am I the only person who thinks this is utterly unworkable and impossible to implement?

    The bods who keep our lights on say that electricity production capacity would have to double. Most electric cars can't tow a caravan and have little range if they can. Charging on a fast charger takes at least forty-five minutes so won't motorway service stations need to be the size of football pitches? Cities are full of people who live in flats and have to park in the street. How are they supposed to charge their cars?

    More electric cars, ok, I can see that but I cannot see how they can work for everyone. Or even most people.
     
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    just imagine how much other taxes will have to go up to offset the loss of income from fuel duty... unless they stick it on electricity... home bills more expensive.. but then perhaps by then have solar panels will be the norm.

    we just need someone to crack the hydrogen manufacturing cost and all will be well
     
  3. Mr Pig

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    Think about these numbers. Makes the target sound pretty ridiculous.

    Also, the production of electric cars is highly polluting. Currently, you need to drive 75K miles before you cancel it out! And those batteries need replacing every few years. And then you've got the difficulty of recycling them.

    And where is the power to charge them coming from?
     
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    that's based on existing tech. Battery tech is going away from many of those, so things may get better on that front.
    However I do agree that electricity is being sold as the answer to everything but it still requires massive amounts of mining and use of resources, and i am unsure how 'reusable' or recyclable these batteries are. will we have an issue as electric cars are no longer newly introduced but are also being taken out of use in a high quantity.
    (not to mention where does electricity come from).
     
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    Sure, but you can't build policy on 'may'. I'm sure battery technology will get better but no one knows how quickly or what the new tech might cost.

    Electricity doesn't solve the problem, it just moves it to a remote location. So where exactly are we going to get all this extra electricity? What we're talking about is spending billions on new infrastructure and scrapping lots of perfectly functional existing stuff for what will probably be a marginal net reduction in pollution and a quality of life improvement of zero.
     
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    completely agree that electricity just moves the pollution out of cities, - and also agree that the resources for batteries is a concern, however it would appear that we are going to be dependent on batteries more and more, - not just vehicles, but powering homes/industry etc as we want to use cleaner electricity - which will need to be generated and stored as 'green' electricity is not available 'on demand' (Wind / tide / solar generated electricity...)

    But while the policy has some potential issues, at least something is being done.
    And while i accept that electricity is not the complete green option as we will still pollute via power stations etc, - it will be an improvement over petrol/diesel, certainly in terms of health.

    my preferred option would be hydrogen, but then even hydrogen has its issues..
     

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