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Discussion in 'Ateca' started by Tell, Jun 3, 2018.

  1. Tell

    Tell Full Member

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    It's suppose to be the top one. May be Radas altered the program so it's the second one now but works fine for those who have previously done it how he said before !. What you can't do is go mad an do what you could with the RNS units before MIB2. That is the instruction of hanging them off the route. You can't have siblings hanging all over the place in a big tree structure.

    Any one else that finds they have to do it the second way rather the first way ?.
     
  2. Damo H

    Damo H That Carbon sknob down the street ;)

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    @Maypack for sure.

    Has anyone with a MY2019 tried it the way I have it?
     
  3. Don1961

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    OK.... so a reboot didn't work.
    So I've now created using child structure.....

    upload_2019-10-22_13-38-27.png

    so I'll reformat USB and also SD card and try both those tonight. Just in case it doesn't like USB.

    Did you bother changing map zoom level at all?
     

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  4. Damo H

    Damo H That Carbon sknob down the street ;)

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    I didn't change map zoom level for anything to make it work. Those Icons though, have you checked they're okay? I know when creating your own icons you need to be careful of resolution, file size and bit depth.
     
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  5. Don1961

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    I found them at

    https://www.vwroc.com/forums/topic/24063-poi-sat-nav-speed-camera-alerts-via-car-net/

    they were 200 x 200, and I just changed them to be 39 x 39. I'll try with them and if it still fails I'll try with the ones from PocketGPSWorld
     
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  6. Tell

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    He never told me about it (Maypack) and we're mates ;).

    I will email the developer to see whether he changed the program. I could see if he did then it may behave like this now on legacy file proformas but need a new revised format on a new one. But either way the process is quite strict on getting the proforma right for the mib units on icon size and as I said the units themselves being rebooted to get them to accept revised icons which had a problem first time round.
     
  7. Don1961

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    In the POInspect0r manual, the developer talks about both structures. Although he does say.....
    under the heading 'Discover' Units...
    For these 'newer' units, it should look like this (according to this link). It then shows a screen shot as per @Tell's instructions.
    The link, by the way, is to this thread ;)
     
  8. Damo H

    Damo H That Carbon sknob down the street ;)

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    At the risk of throwing him under the bus for not telling you :whistle:, here is the screen shot he sent me of what he uses:

    [​IMG]

    Edit better image:
    upload_2019-10-22_15-40-22.png
     
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  9. Tell

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    Might be the case where the default technical author didn't get told of the programmers change. I'll email to resolve.
     
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    Damo H That Carbon sknob down the street ;)

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    Could this be the reason so many new people with MY2019 can't update POIs?
     
  11. Tell

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    No that's the hardware finishing in 877 and 877A, the standard unit with wifi. The Spanish board have led the way on that since the guy that manufactures the files from a Spanish speed camera database found all his user base getting their freebies from him were not working. He uses Radas program. So he pinned the issue down on Spanish Leon and Ateca sites. It goes threw to MY20.

    There are other people with scripts that do the import but they all fail since nobody can import Pois on those units. Saying this I think its an incompatibility of the firmware with the device so it was never tested correctly with the hardware. The solution being via a change in the firmware but that hasn't happened yet as it has run onto the My20 units. Of course Seat says we don't support it if you read the Spanish thread referenced above.

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  12. Maypack

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    Yes mine works this way. Couldn’t get it to work with the Parent structure at all.


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  13. Tell

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    Ok had a reply from Radas replying to which of the two should be used shown in post 100:

    Both will work. Program export all Cat´s into root as discover unit does not support tree structure.

    Btw docu is already updated by anyone from germany.


    I have edited the document with the words "May require" since Radas says either but linked down to the recent examples above.

    Trust we are all happy now :).
     
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  14. Damo H

    Damo H That Carbon sknob down the street ;)

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    Was never unhappy ;)
     
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    I'm very happy...... finally got it to work for me! :bounce:

    I used the @Damo H / @Maypack way ;) Also. had to use an SD card.... wasn't happy with the USB stick, but it did like the icons. YaaaY

    Just need to check the warble tomorrow.

    Many thanks to @Tell and @Damo H for all your help and advice. :worship:
     
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  16. Damo H

    Damo H That Carbon sknob down the street ;)

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    Can't take any credit, its all @Tell and a little bit of @Maypack. I'm just here to cause trouble lol
     
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    True :) I forgot to thank @Maypack. Sorry. :worship:
     
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  18. Tell

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    Had a feeling there was a USB issue perhaps on the standard unit. Works fine on the high. I populate two cars one high the other standard with the speeds cameras and my favourite destinations which mimic normal Sat nav systems in their presentation.

    USB Pois are fine on the high but keep two very low memory old photographic SD cards for the POI updates. Obviously I'd have to agree with the developer that either presentation will work as per post 100 but signposted it in the documentation.
     
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    I’m merely passed on information which was subsequently passed on again


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  20. Tell

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    Well Radas says either method in post 100 works but given the second has more recent positive posts I'd go for that. I'd test the first method again with the more recent update of the program, but the thought of fiddling around to construct that again put me off when I have something working. Basically that part of the program is a graphical interface to create the structure of the database file. That may have changed but we are told not.

    Once the database file is created you populate it. The icons wherever you get them from need resizing to 39x39 if they aren't already. I provide one way of doing that in the text, there are others.

    For the warble you set the distance at 1 metre, mib units compute the distance before the camera to sound the warning based on your speed. Old RDS unit that was manual. O and 1 is all you need.

    Sort out the icons on the screen to show.

    Warble volume is at the navigation voice level.

    You do a test run as described in the text, demo mode of the advanced menu.

    That just leaves any idiosyncratic behaviour of the unit to importing the Pois. That's where the reboot comes in, if you resize them and they still dont appear correctly. Think they get imported to one area of the infotainment memory but don't cross over to what it uses before a reboot since it remains unaware that you have changed the icon size.
     
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