what car would win this race?

[crigisback]

What do you guys think would win in a sprint race.
A leon tdi fr 170 chipped or a leon fr petrol dsg standard?

 

[brad1]

I know where this thread is heading!!!! straight to the rubbish

 

[predo]

I'd say close but with little edge for Petrol, depending if LC is used... TDI could be quicker of the line but petrol would make up for it I think.

 

[jcp]

Petrol obviously- no smelly penny-pinchermobile could possibly compete!!
Diesels are fine for the "I just did 759 miles for £30" brigade.

 

[Nath.]

Petrol obviously- no smelly penny-pinchermobile could possibly compete!!
Diesels are fine for the "I just did 759 miles for £30" brigade.

Haahaa.

 

[bmb779]

Petrol obviously- no smelly penny-pinchermobile could possibly compete!!
Diesels are fine for the "I just did 759 miles for £30" brigade.

Thats how the SEAT LEON TDI won the the WTCC then!!!!

 

[cheungy]

if its chipped then its going to be the derv because of the increase in torque power so its not really a fair question if the petrol was mapped aswell (chipped) then it would beat it although at the same time it depends on the driver !

 

[allbutt55]

Tdi all the way, derv must be better thats why seat used it in there race car, ha ha

 

[rllmuk]

Petrol would lead initially (due to DSG mainly) but the TDI would reign it in easily due to the remap and therefore extra 100+ ft lb of torque.

No idea why I posted as this topic will get deleted shortly. Ho-hum.

 

[WeeG]

From a standing start it will be close, but rolling the leon's superior torque will pull away. I never raced a tfsi when i was stage 1, but i raced a civic type r new shape and off roundabouts in torque i could pull a substantial amount!

 

[vngtx]

diesel - as soon as the tdi gets a little bit ahead the petrol wont be able to see through all the smoke and will crash.

 

[NickP]

diesel - as soon as the tdi gets a little bit ahead the petrol wont be able to see through all the smoke and will crash.

If he hasn't deleted the DPF there will be zero smoke

 

[crigisback]

if both were mapped i do believe the petrol will be able to take the derv machine!

 

[crigisback]

I know where this thread is heading!!!! straight to the rubbish

apologies people . I have just read forum rules and realised i should not have posted the versus thing.
It will probably be removed apologies to the admins.

 

[warren_cox]

Petrol over the sprint (driver dependent). Diesel on the fly.

Whilst it's easy for us petrol-heads to mock the oilers, the 335d proves you can make a diesel properly quick.

 

[AndrewJB]

A remapped FR TDI PD170 is good for 200ish brake + The extra 100lb.ft ish its got i do believe it would win

Not sure what a "Chipped" FR TDI would put out

As said above if TDI's are so slow then why do Seat/Sun Red engineering use them to win in WTCC and also in the Past BTCC

Then theres Audi's Le Mans wins in the R10 TDI and R15 TDI

This thread wont get deleted if you are talking 1/4 Mile sprint at for instance Santa pod but if your talking on the Streets then its heading straight for the Scrap pile

 

[RobH]

This is a sprint not a le mans 24hr race, you wont need to re fuel half way down the 1/4 mile will you .

this thread

 

[jezyg]

I would say pretty darn close try this is actually not far off real figures and is at least like for like:

http://www.letstorquebhp.com/calculator.asp

FR TSi DSG (pre FL)
Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 199
Weight without Driver (KG) : 1360
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 148.67
0 - 60 (Secs) : 7.20
0 - 100 (Secs) : 18.88
60 - 100 (Secs) : 11.68
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 15.60
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 90.89
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 15.40
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 92.45

Superchipped FR TDi 195Bhp (pre fl)
Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 195
Weight without Driver (KG) : 1320
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 150.10
0 - 60 (Secs) : 7.14
0 - 100 (Secs) : 18.76
60 - 100 (Secs) : 11.62
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 15.55
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 91.03
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 15.35
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 92.60

Not much in it assuming I have the weights correct

 

[AndrewJB]

I would say pretty darn close try this is actually not far off real figures and is at least like for like:

http://www.letstorquebhp.com/calculator.asp

FR TSi DSG (pre FL)
Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 199
Weight without Driver (KG) : 1360
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 148.67
0 - 60 (Secs) : 7.20
0 - 100 (Secs) : 18.88
60 - 100 (Secs) : 11.68
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 15.60
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 90.89
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 15.40
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 92.45

Superchipped FR TDi 195Bhp (pre fl)
Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 195
Weight without Driver (KG) : 1320
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 150.10
0 - 60 (Secs) : 7.14
0 - 100 (Secs) : 18.76
60 - 100 (Secs) : 11.62
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 15.55
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 91.03
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 15.35
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 92.60

Not much in it assuming I have the weights correct

I Think FR TDI is more like 1415kg

 

[jezyg]

I Think FR TDI is more like 1415kg

That sounds heavy the FL one is only 1320kg for both TSi and TDi?