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With a key ingnition do i need a dislok for security?

Discussion in 'Leon Mk3 (2012-2020)' started by stepp, Oct 18, 2019.

  1. stepp

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    Guys

    I did use the search function.....and people are telling me ( in real life ) i need a disklok on a 2017 1.4 FR titanium with a key for the ignition.

    I dont think i do as from what ive read to take the car they need the key and the OBD wont do them any favours, so im thinking the disklok paranoid people mean keyless cars?

    Could someone please clarify this, ive only had the car a month and im just loving it !

    Been driving a 1.8 astra G for 16 years so this is just amazing for me :)
     
  2. Lozzy15

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    The general feeling about the extra security is more to do with thieves breaking into houses and stealing keys to rob the car. Kessy has its own issues, but even a car without it can still be nabbed this way.

    The extra secuirty of the lock is to add visual discouragement, and a physical barrier should they attempt to get the keys.

    If you do get one, it would be a good idea to not attach the key for it to the car keys, as they'll then be able to remove it if they get the keys anyway!

    Nice model choice btw :whistle:
     
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  3. Seastormer

    Seastormer Cupra 280/CBF1000

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    I have one on my 280, and it does not have Kessy, can't have too much security I think. I also have CCTV, outside Security spotlight, secure house doors, windows, with alarm system too.
     
  4. Mr Pig

    Mr Pig Active Member

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    Know a woman who's Disco was stolen recently, came in through the conservatory and took the keys. She was in the house at time but thankfully didn't hear them.
     
  5. RUM4MO

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    I have put the DiskLok key on both of our house keys keyring - just in case one of us forgets/misplaces our house keys after fitting the DiskLok that I tend to always leave locked and so ready to fit without keys (maybe a bit silly, but each to their own).

    My main plan with DiskLok is that if anyone has a good look at my car, and sees DiskLok, then hopefully they will move onto the next car - selfish but that is all we can do, I've also got the OBD2 port covered with a machined block as my car is an Audi S4 and for some reason people are still trying to take them away! Note the OBD2 port in my car is very close to the driver's side of the car and it has been said/proved, that you can just reach it without activation the interior monitoring system!

    One other thing, in general with VW Group cars and probably others, there is a deliberate delay in the alarm system, so that even if you buy a kit of these lock openers which allow you to unlock the car without damaging the lock barrel, when you open the driver's door, there will be a 15 second (I think) delay before the alarm starts to sound, that is plenty time it seems to stuff a bit of kit into the OBD2 port and generate a synthetic key which will disable the alarm, unlock the electric steering lock and allow you to start the car! I might be wrong about the length of the alarm delay, it will be there in case the remote central locking fails and you need to use a key to open the door - and then the plan is to quickly fit your key into the ignition switch - or suffer the alarm sounding. Many people have altered that delay using VCDS etc.

    Edit:- if considering buying DiskLok, remember that it is a nuisance to fit and remove, but then you will be putting added security before convenience, also consider buying the horrible yellow version as it is a lot more visible to nasty people than the more classy looking silver painted version, I did not have a choice when I bought mine and so have the tame silver painted version!
     
  6. martin j.

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    If you will feel better for having one do it, can’t do any harm?
     
  7. stepp

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    Cheers guys, picked one up today and will use it when i park at work and in multi story car parks etc.

    TBH its not much of pain to put on and off, what is a pain is where to put it, so it lives in the passenger foot well if driving round town, motorways it will be in the boot.
     
  8. RUM4MO

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    I'm afraid that after using mine a few times, I noticed that it was causing heavy marking on my leather trimmed steering wheel, so I treated myself to a "glove" and storage case for it from DiskLok direct (I think), that helps a bit with the marking, but the storage case material is a bit too weak and when I rip open the Velcro strip section to get the DiskLok out - it is just too easy to tear the material as more effort is needed to rip open the Velcro than to tear the case material, badly thought out design. The other either good or bad aspect about the storage case is it has seriously heavy duty Velcro strips on its underside, very handy for stopping the case containing the heavy DiskLok in moving around the boot - but a proper nuisance when you want to move it from its normal "back of the boot" when not being used, to "front of the boot" when you are likely to want to use it quickly - I tried fitting lighter duty double sided Velcro over these strips and that helps a bit and still allows the storage case complete with DiskLok to stay in place in the boot - I'd reckon the original heavy duty Velcro strips would hold it in place even after you rolled the car, which was probably what they were intending!
     
  9. stepp

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    Thanks for the advice, my friend told me to stop the marking on the wheel fit the disklok then turn it so the lock part ( heaviest ) is on the left and not at the top of the wheel.

    I will be using it this week at work so hopefully it doesn't mark the wheel, if it does i will look into getting the cover and case.
     
  10. RUM4MO

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    I think initially I tried adding some extra padding - maybe that came with it, it will depend where the thickest part of the wheel rim is relative to where the narrowest part of the closed DiskLok is - maybe at the "overlap" - any way lot better that than finding an empty space or worrying about going back to an empty space!
     

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